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Latest comment: 22 days ago by ~2026-38966-81 in topic Unclear sentence

Dahmane El Harrachi

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There should be something here about Dahmane El Harrachi. That Wikipedia article and Diwân say it was originally his song. Unfortunately El Harrachi's article is in French only... 75.135.82.119 05:05, 8 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Amel Bouchoucha

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Amel's version is very electronic, has no African dance beats nor berbere sounds and in no manner is it closer to the original than any other cover. I suggest dropping this line entirely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.203.68.10 (talk) 21:10, 12 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Unclear sentence

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"Up until the past 15 years this song was known to be Dahman El Harrachi's original song and in the Chaâbi/Andalous tradition of Algiers." - The sentence implies that some new revelation occurred 15 years ago that he wasn't the songwriter, yet doesn't give any reference to that revelation.  Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.226.192.202 (talk) 10:19, 23 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

It also isn't set up to automatically update the number of years based on the date of access for the reader, so someone reading this sentence 15 years from today will think the change in understanding of the song's origin happened today. This is called relative time stamping, not sure exactly what Wikipedia uses to name this, but language like this should never ever be used in an encyclopedia unless it's embedded in a dynamic way that computes the relative time based on access time for the reader. Even then, it's still a bad idea, since now if you print the article out and put it in a personal archive to be read years later, the information is incorrect without the context of when the article was accessed/printed. But at least that would make more sense that way rather than how the author just writes in absolute terms "until the past 15 years". ~2026-38966-81 (talk) 04:41, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Also, addendum: I just realized now that I am responding to a comment left April 2018. Hah! It's now 2026, so even if the sentence in question was written the same day as the comment, we now need that 15 years to be adjusted by at least 8 years, and very likely more than that, but we have no idea how much to adjust because we cannot find the citation that tells us when the "revelation" occurred. ~2026-38966-81 (talk) 04:43, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Romani origin of tune?

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came across this and wondering if it predates the Algierian versions? There's no dating in the video info

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q7i8wRpHuI  Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.203.144.19 (talk) 13:30, 25 October 2020 (UTC)Reply