Talk:Xeokit

Did you know nomination

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The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Narutolovehinata5 talk 22:27, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

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xeokit BIM Viewer

• ... that xeokit SDK can visualize 3D BIM models directly in your browser without needing any proprietary software?

• Source: xeokit SDK enables the visualization of 3D BIM models in standard web browsers without requiring proprietary software, facilitating vendor-neutral workflows helping avoid vendor lock-in.

• • Reviewed:

Created by Drashevski (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Drashevski (talk) 12:40, 27 June 2025 (UTC).

• The hook as currently written cannot be used as: 1. It fails WP:DYKINT (it is unlikely to interest or even be understood by people lacking specialist knowledge about IT), and 2. It reads like an advertisement for Xeokit. Pinging Maury Markowitz or DigitalIceAge for input on whether or not the article is salvageable and if a better hook can be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 21:42, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Well first off the hood needs a link to the actual article! Looking it over, and some of the external pages, I think this is reasonable article. My only concern is the cites - there's plenty of them but most of them point back to GitHub or similar. There are some reasonable mentions in 3rd party papers (basically the second half of the cite list) but there's also a fair number of passing mentions. As always I err on the side of inclusion, so if anyone agrees this passes, the issue is the hook. This seems reasonably hooky: Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:25, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the Xeokit software development kit is used to build browser-based programs that can view detailed 3D architectural models (pictured) on the web?

That still seems a bit too technical or at least specialist. Is there a way to make it more layperson or non-techy friendly? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:04, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm going to disagree with that. The reader has to know what the web is and what a browser is, and I would wager that the average reader what architecture is, and what a 3d model is. They may not know what a software development kit is, but I think they can figure that out from the term itself. This does not seem overly technical or in-universe to me, but YMMV. Maury Markowitz (talk) 23:59, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

The layperson probably thinks of "browser" as being like Chrome or Safari (i.e. a web browser), and it's not clear from the hook that it's talking about that. Of course, it could just be because it's full of techy-sounding terms, which muddles the waters somewhat. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:16, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

I think we can safely add "web" to the "browser" bit instead of the end, and I don't think we need SDK, so how's this? Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:43, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that Xeokit is used to build web browser-based programs that can view detailed 3D architectural models (pictured)?

• This still needs a full review. I have struck the other hooks, so only ALT2 is under consideration. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:20, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

@Drashevski: There is a {{primary source inline}} tag in this article, and judging by the reflist I'd say that what this actually needs is {{primary sources}}, which is a disqualifier here. Please remove the offending sources.--Launchballer 19:52, 11 August 2025 (UTC)

@Launchballer: Thank you for mentioning me! I hadn't noticed the tag before. I have just published a change adding two more sources and reformulating the statement and I hope it's okay now.--Drashevski 12:05, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

My mistake, I actually meant {{independent sources}} (I always get primary and independent confused). For example, the sentence "xeokit SDK was presented by its creator, Lindsay Kay, at the Virtual WebGL Meetup in 2020, an industry event hosted by the Khronos Group that also featured speakers from organizations such as Google, Sketchfab, and Microsoft." is cited entirely to the Khronos group and this needs an independent source. There's a lot of these and they need better sources. I can tag them myself inline if needed.--Launchballer 13:44, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

@Drashevski: Please address the above.--Launchballer 23:29, 25 August 2025 (UTC)

@Launchballer: Thank you for the clarifications! I agree but unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to do anything about it, unfortunately. --Drashevski 08:55, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

I must mark this for closure then I'm afraid.--Launchballer 20:10, 26 August 2025 (UTC)