Talk:World Party

Update April 2006

Updated with details of Karl's illness in 2000 and recent return to live performance at SXSW in Austin. A few other tweaks. Here's to seeing Karl back on stage in the UK - a show on the Goodbye Jumbo tour in Portsmouth in 1990 (?) still stands as one of the most sublime gigs I have ever attended... Idoru66 18:08, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

seems a bit biased against mike scott doesnt it—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.67.172.52 (talk • contribs)

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84.67.172.52, how can I break this one to you gently? Mike Scott is not a demi-God! He's a human as the rest of us. And like all humans, he's had personality clashes, moods, etc - one of which ultimately led to the founding of World Party (a large chunk of whom initially were made up of continuing Waterboys members). It's not the first band in the world this has happened to, and it won't be the last - see The Sisters Of Mercy & The Mission for example (albeit theirs was far more messy). The point of Wikipedia is to relate what happened, warts and all, so people know how a band came into existence. Hence also why I added in the note of the suspicions amongst some of Ensign's culpability in World Party's genesis - hardly in line with being anti-Mike Scott now, is it?

If you still want to argue the toss, you'll find me on the Mike Scott/Waterboys forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/main.asp?webtag=waterboys&nav=messages&prettyurl=%2Fwaterboys%2Fmessages

as I've been for donkey's years. Mark Boyle Talk 16:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Emmy?

I changed Emmy to Grammy because in the US an Emmy is a television award and a Grammy is a music award. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Horsenbuggy (talk • contribs)

Good catch. Jkelly 19:11, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Formation section

Mark Boyle (talk · contribs) made a large addition to the article. While the article was crying out for expansion, the new material makes some very strong claims without any referencing at all. I left it mostly intact, changed a few things (such as the section header suggesting that The Waterboys had broken up), but the whole section needs some fact-checking, and probably some tone edits as well. Jkelly 22:17, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

The user's response to my original question is here. Jkelly 22:36, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

The addition is without a doubt rather scrappy, but probably worth keeping if it can be licked into shape. I do recall some of the NME discussion at the time, but not being an especially devoted fan (I enjoyed the music of the Waterboys, both before and after the 'folky' turn, and also WP) I can't recall it bothering me in any way so the details haven't stuck. If the facts are well known as Mr4. Boyle claims, there should be some dispassionate summary available we can use as a source. Personally I wouldn't go asking fan forums, since if it's such a touchy subject even now (get a life!) then NPOV is going to be hard to come by. Graham 11:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Fan forums don't top our list of reliable sources. Do any of the magazines mentioned have a back-issue search available? Jkelly 17:30, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Fed up of looking at the very distorted Waterboys split story, for which there is not one scrap of citation, so have attempted a fairer Formation section, with "typical" write-up on Wallinger. Can add citations if really needed - not sure we still need the neutrality warning as presumably it focused on the slanders against Wallinger. MarkThomas 20:22, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Just about says it all that my contribution to this section was erased off by the Stalinist "Mike Scott Can Do No Wrong" brigade, and that one of them - Mark Thomas - has since been banned from the board as a sock-puppet. Readers can judge for themselves just what Mike Scott/The Waterboys devotees are so desperate to hide. Mark Boyle (talk) 17:11, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Moved sentence

"Wallinger has also acted as a member of Bob Geldof's backing band."

Since there is a separate article dedicated to Karl Wallinger, I'm moving this sentence, which is irrelevant to World Party. emw 06:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

What?

"World Party's music is hard to categorise, being a tuneful but sophisticated pop and rock combination, with elements of folk, funk, R n B and soul thrown in with a lot of sound samples to give a "recycled" feel in accordance with the band's "Green" image."

What? That would almost be an insult if it made any sense. --Macarion 04:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

== Reality Bites / When You Come Back To Me == World Party

I know a lot of people who came to the band via this soundtrack; but I've been unable to track down whether it's on any of their albums, and it should probably be mentioned in the entry. Is the song a cover, or written just for the movie, or what?

Clean up.

I've attempted to tidy the article a little. Removed some of the more obviously subjective sentences. Perhaps others could join me in doing a little research so that we can provide a few citations for this article and get the (currently well deserved) tag removed. SolomonTrim (talk) 19:50, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Bonus greatest hits CD included with 'Egyptology'

Many years ago, I purchased the 'Egyptology' CD, and it came with a bonus greatest hits CD called 'A Brief History of the World Party'. I saw no mention of it in either the World Party discography, or on the 'Egyptology' page. Should it not be included somewhere, or is it not considered a proper release?

http://www.last.fm/music/World+Party/A+Brief+History+of+the+World+Party AJC3fromS2K — Preceding undated comment added 03:13, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Date errors

Some of the dates attributed to musicians are incorrect:

Steve McEwan was on the Bang! tour in 1993 but only for the first leg of the tour. He was replaced by John Turnbull in 1993. Amanda Kramer was keyboard player in 1994 but also in 2000 for a short UK tour of Dumbing Up. Kenny Campbell was keyboard player for the whole of 1993 Arkeology disk 3.4 and 3.5 and joined Amanda for the Dumbing Up tour.

I question whether Guy Chambers was still directly associated with World Party beyond March/April 1993, but would defer on that. They were friends and I concede the possibility that he may have continued to work with him in the studio - but I wondered what evidence supports that 1997 date. Guy himself makes reference in an interview to spending 5 years with World Party which would be consistent with 1987-1993. Etherline (talk) 07:12, 20 March 2026 (UTC)