Talk:World Communion of Reformed Churches

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Hi.

Just amended the page following the Uniting General Council to make further sense now that our organisation has been brought into existance! Hope they're helpful. Change them if they're not.

Warmest wishes and blessings to everyone who organised and participated in the Council. The event was a huge success and truly gave everyone in attendance a real sense of the "Unity of the Spirit in the Bond of Peace" as council members and associates truly viewed one another as brothers and sisters in Christ, looking beyond all theological bounderies and barriers, accepting one another as valuable and blessed in the eyes of God, aiming to see each other in the same light.

I offer my warmest prayers and wishes for the development of the Communion, that it may be a symbol of love, peace and justice and that all involved, in any way, will come to understand the precious nature of unity along with its power as a way through which the warmest desires of our hearts can go beyond dream status into reality.

Love, Peace, UNITY,

Simon Peters, UNITED REFORMED CHURCH, UNITED KINGDOM.

Third largest denomination claim

None of the citations given appear to provide any real evidence for this claim. I've removed some which point to other wikipedia pages, and the one to the Anglican Communion website, as it doesn't say anything about the WCRC, but I've left in the USA Today article which appears to put the Anglican Communion as the 3rd largest denomination, which would leave WCRC fourth. This would also tally with the fact that this article claims 80 million members for the WCRC, wheras other pages on wikipedia like List of the largest Protestant churches and List of Christian denominations by number of members claim 85 million members for the AC. Maybe we can find a reliable source placing WCRC as the fourth largest protestant denomination? 46.65.51.149 (talk) 02:01, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Seven years later, and the claim remains unsubstantiated by RS. The Anglican Communion is considered by most RS commenting on religion to be the third largest Christian communion. This could be because of the distinctions in ecclesiology. The WCRC may not be comparable, in its definition of a communion, to the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches. I do not know enough about how the WCRC defines its bonds of communion to say unilaterally whether it is comparable to the other communions as they are historically defined. What I added was the "not in citation given" or "failed verification" template to indicate that if an editor has knowledge of RS to support the claim, then that should be added to improve the article.SeminarianJohn (talk) 07:11, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Again, an editor is doing original research and attempting to state, without RS, that the World Communion of Reformed Churches is the third or fourth largest communion. The World Communion of Reformed Churches itself claims a maximum of 100 million members. I don't know where the editor is getting the "original research" showing 124+ million when the organization itself only claims 100 million (that citation is added).SeminarianJohn (talk) 22:12, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Dearest @SeminarianJohn! The website of the World Communion of Reformed Churches, unlike the Lutheran World Federation, does not have an estimated number of members for each member denomination. The expression "over 100 million" is extremely imprecise. Therefore, the Communion itself does not provide any precise number. On the other hand, the article cites almost 230 different sources, which give the number of members for each member denomination of the Communion and these sources give precise numbers. The total number of full member churches is 84 million, according to these sources. If associate or affiliated members are included, this number reaches 124 million. These numbers are fully verified by the sources of each member church. It makes no sense to erase a precise number to give the imprecise information of "over 100 million". Don't you think? Daniel Silva Mendanha (talk) 22:56, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

I understand. But, that is what the World Communion of Reformed Churches states. Adding up denominational figures that are difficult for other editors to verify is "original research" and, especially considering that it does not match what the WCRC itself says, it is at odds with the wiki policy on "original research." SeminarianJohn (talk) 23:32, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Here is the information on original research and why it is not allowed. Thank you for responding so quickly, friend. I think we can word things on these articles in a way that can be a consensus decision. For example, I would support saying "one of the largest Christian communions in the world along with...." Wikipedia:No original research SeminarianJohn (talk) 23:33, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

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