Talk:Wookiee/GA1

GA review

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Nominator: An anonymous username, not my real name (talk · contribs) 02:56, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: ThaesOfereode (talk · contribs) 00:30, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

Hi @An anonymous username, not my real name: Happy to give you a hand for May 4th, especially given your review-to-GA ratio; I like to help editors who go above and beyond to review. I'm not the biggest Star Wars nerd, but I love the series so give me a little to mill through some of this and provide some feedback. ThaesOfereode (talk) 00:30, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

@An anonymous username, not my real name: Pinging in case you missed it. ThaesOfereode (talk) 19:58, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

Sorry for the lack of response. This is definitely on my radar, though I might be a little slow. — An anonymous username, not my real name 23:00, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

Not a problem; just wanted to make sure you saw, that's all. ThaesOfereode (talk) 23:28, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

@An anonymous username, not my real name: Great work on this. Any issues I might still have with this, if any, certainly don't disqualify this as a Good Article. Congrats on taking on such a big cultural page. Nihil obstat ; this page is passed. ThaesOfereode (talk) 01:12, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

Lede

I'll come back to the lede at the end, but to start:

• Any reason you changed the lede to read "creatures" instead of "humanoid aliens"? They are aliens, after all.

  I would actually appreciate your opinion on this. I changed it because the term isn't especially widely used within the context of Star Wars (on the Wookiee Wookieepedia page they are simply called "furry humanoids"), except perhaps in contexts relating to discrimination against non-humans. At least to me (and this may only represent my personal opinion), the term invokes more routine Earth-centric sci-fi than a space opera like Star Wars (humans as they appear in the franchise could arguably be considered "aliens" in a strict sense as they hail from Coruscant rather than Earth). It can be tricky trying to balance in-universe and real-world perspectives. I could alternatively change "creatures" to "humanoids" as something that should satisfy everyone.

• To be honest with you, I think the sky is blue on this one. They're non-Earth creatures from another planet, which is functionally the definition of "alien" in the extraterrestrial sense so I don't think it really needs to be sourced here in the traditional way; it's a lot like WP:CALC. Also I think leaning too far into the space opera nomenclature rather than boilerplate alien talk may constitute a WP:IN-U vio. All this being a long-winded way to say: I think "humanoid aliens" or similar is the right approach. ThaesOfereode (talk) 12:39, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

Fair enough; I'll change it. I'm also curious about your thoughts on "Star Wars universe" vs "Star Wars franchise" (the former being what the lead originally said and the second what I changed it to during my rewrite). To me, 'universe' seems to lean into pop culture jargon (excluding cases where it's unambiguously correct, like the Marvel Cinematic Universe) and it seems like it could potentially confuse a very casual fan who's more familiar with the Star Wars galaxy. I suppose it may not make a great difference. — An anonymous username, not my real name 02:39, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

I would certainly prefer "franchise" here, especially since it distinguishes the concept from the space theme of the series. It's not the be-all-end-all but it's good to consider. ThaesOfereode (talk) 12:27, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

• Similarly, you name their planet in the lede but don't make any comments on it at all, but is it not worth describing the kind of planet they come from?

  Surprisingly, there wasn't much of a description in the body either. I added a brief description in Fictional culture and added the word "forested" to the lead (hopefully, that's a sufficient description).

• It's fine for now. I suspect there might be more to add later esp with potential sources relating to KOTOR. ThaesOfereode (talk) 12:39, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

Inspiration

• Do we have any idea what kind of dog Indiana was?

  Added

• The Russian translations were off; I have fixed them accordingly and added the Russian terms in Cyrillic. I am chalking up the sourced transliteration issue to hypercorrections.
• exclaims "I think I ran over a Wookiee back there" – Not a big deal, but what is he referring to in this film? I've never seen it.

Neither have I. It's probably worth a watch someday. Unfortunately, the sources do not go into further detail.

That's fine. Not show-stopping here. ThaesOfereode (talk) 12:31, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

Appearances

• Overall, this section is... unbalanced. It seems to oscillate between in-universe happenings to design structure to simple reviews of the movie.

See below. I agree that the first section did not fit well, and I'm not sure to what extent breaking it off satisfies your overall concerns. My primary intent with the section is, as the name suggests, simply record major appearances of Wookiees in Star Wars media — I feel that the in-universe and behind-the-scenes aspects are rather intrinsically linked here. Putting criticism alongside feels like the most natural choice (a separate 'Reception' section seems awkward and clunky). The holiday special probably most obviously deviates from solely focusing on the Wookiees, but they are fairly central to the plot film itself, and I thought it was reasonable to at least briefly convey how poorly it has been received. — An anonymous username, not my real name 05:02, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

This reads a lot better now. Good work. ThaesOfereode (talk) 12:32, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

• I can't help but feel all of the "Star Wars (1977)" section should belong in "Inspiration" or maybe a combined "Design" section. I think perhaps the 1977 section should focus on Chewie's first reception by critics and maybe some retrospectives, especially since this section does not match the others.

I merged them. I also combined the original trilogy films into one section because only ROTJ really had enough content to stand alone. Finding early reviews of Star Wars specifically discussing Chewbacca was a bit tricky, mainly since the film was such a novelty for its time that reviews don't seem to linger too much on specific aspects. I did find something; I'll see what you think. — An anonymous username, not my real name 05:02, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

• Soft recommendation to link the animals the call is named after.

To be clear, do you mean three other bears, a badger, a lion, a seal, and a walrus? It seems like potential OVERLINK; they are rather well-known animals. — An anonymous username, not my real name 22:09, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a soft suggestion. Thought it might be an easy link for a user to go to to maybe see what a walrus sounds like, though of course there's no audio file there so feel free to disregard. ThaesOfereode (talk) 21:06, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

• created the name by "reversing the syllables of the character [sic] he called Wookie [sic]" – Just say he "flipped" the syllables and avoid the sic'ing.

 Done

• Chewbacca's first appearance as a malnourished prisoner – Is there another time? Surely not in Return of the Jedi.

Perhaps the wording was unclear. It now clearly states that this is referring to Chewbacca's first appearance in the movie Solo specifically.

Right, but if this is his first appearance, there must be at least one more. Where else is Chewie a malnourished prisoner? ThaesOfereode (talk) 12:30, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

Just to be clear, my intent is to say "when Chewbacca first appears onscreen in the movie Solo, he is a malnourished prisoner", irrespective of any of his other film appearances (I don't believe he otherwise has been one). The prose now reads Chewbacca's first appearance in Solo is as a malnourished prisoner. Does this need to be clarified further? — An anonymous username, not my real name 17:28, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

No, that's much more clear now so that's fine. ThaesOfereode (talk) 21:07, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

• made his live-action debut in The Book of Boba Fett – Drifting into an in-universe perspective here. Also consider mentioning the media as a Mandalorian spin-off.

Should be better now. Mentioned spinoff status.

Looks good. ThaesOfereode (talk) 00:32, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

• extended her regards to Krrsantan's actor – I'd make it explicit that the regards are good. This seems cold from my reading, but the source indicates she was thrilled. A quote here might also be appropriate.

The wording has been changed up. Let me know how you feel about the quote I selected. — An anonymous username, not my real name 00:27, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Yep, looks great. Made a minor edit myself for flow. ThaesOfereode (talk) 00:30, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

• As an aside, why are we not calling him "Black Krrsantan"?

The SW Databank and Wookieepedia entries are simply Krrsantan. Our article is titled Black Krrsantan but it's in a pretty rough state. Of the three sources used in discussion of the character, one consistently uses Black Krrsantan and one consistently uses Krrsantan (the latter is from the official SW website for what it's worth). The one about Angie Mayhew's reaction uses Krrsantan but her quote itself uses Black Krrsantan. I really have no idea what's best. — An anonymous username, not my real name 00:27, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

No idea myself. Fine as is for now. ThaesOfereode (talk) 00:31, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

• Battle of Kashyyyk – Recommend making it explicit that this is the battle from Ep 3 since you don't explicitly call it "the Battle of Kashyyyk" (i.e., it's possible that the Battle of Kashyyyk is from one of the other things you just mentioned).

Technically the source doesn't make the connection but the sky is probably blue again. Done.

• I think the absence of Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (2003) needs to be rectified. Like a fifth of the game takes place on Kashyyyk, Wookiee culture is explored rather in depth, and the original KOTOR is widely considered to be one of the greatest video games of all time. The betrayal of the life debt where Revan forces Zaalbar to kill Mission is certain to be mentioned somewhere.

The best sources I found were these: and . I've added a rather modest section based primarily on the former, with an additional comment on the game's legacy from here: . That last one specifically focuses on a KOTOR remake that's been in the works for quite sometime. My preference would be to not mention the remake as long as it's still stuck in development hell and we don't have an actual game to discuss. It might be best to work the betrayal part into the Culture section instead. I also plan on discussing the Wookiee taboo against claw use in combat, which is depicted in the game, among other works. — An anonymous username, not my real name 04:32, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

Fictional culture

• Can we gloss the Trandoshans as like "giant humanoid lizards" or similar?

They are now defined as "giant humanoid reptiles".

• converse with Princess Leia in Basic in Star Wars: Heir to the Empire – Can we say what kind of media this is (e.g., book)?

The source is specifically discussing a comic which is itself an adaptation of the Heir to the Empire novel series. According to the writer of the comics, Mike Baron, they are completely faithful to the writing of the original source, so I'll just attribute the info to the novels.

• The book The Ultimate Star Wars and Philosophy – I would say the authors' names in their book The Ultimate Star Wars and Philosophy say this. As an aside, what a bizarre take; Han clearly understands Chewie in a way unique throughout the series and clearly Chewie understands language. The "meta" analysis here doesn't even make sense since something being unscripted in our world doesn't make it unscripted in theirs. Strange position to take.
• even though it is readily interpreted by viewers as such – "Regularly"?

I had the chapter on a loan that's since expired, so I can't verify exactly what the source said ATM, but I do seem to recall intentionally using "readily" in the sense of "without hesitation or reluctance".

• In one version of the holiday – Where is this originally found? Like the novelization of the first movie or somewhere else?

A more detailed study of Wookiee culture, believed to be transcribed by Lucasfilm’s director of publishing Carol Wikarska Titelman from interviews with George Lucas I've changed the article to read based on interviews with George Lucas compiled in the 1970s by Carol Wikarska Titelman

• pre- and post-Disney eras – Well, Disney still owns SW so I would rephrase this.

 Done

• The book Star Wars: Complete Locations, New Edition states – Is this official lore? Can we indicate this somehow because otherwise it reads like fancruft.

Honestly, I'll just purge this paragraph. Screen Rant is one of the few entertainment sources listed at WP:RSP, but the extent of its coverage of pop culture topics seems to veer into undue weight in many cases.

• Star Wars works set after Revenge of the Sith depict the Wookiees as enslaved by the Empire – One or two prominent examples wouldn't hurt, if there are any.

Paragraph is now gone per above. I plan to offset this loss with some discussion of Wookiee customs (regarding claw use and life debt) that I mentioned earlier.

• Wookiee Jedi – Surely just "Jedi" here or "As Jedi", right? Might even be worth getting rid of the subtitle altogether tbh. Confer WP:POSA.

I agree that adding Wookiee is redundant. I feel like the separate section might be worth it, given that being a Jedi is not necessarily common in Wookiee culture and that this is more of an intersectional matter, but it's probably not too important either way. — An anonymous username, not my real name 00:38, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Cultural impact

• and that overly specific content is labelled "fancruft" and targeted for removal – I would rephrase this to say something like Wookieepedia is a place for information that is considered "fancruft" on Wikipedia. Makes it sound less complain-y.

I ended up heavily rewording this. I think going too far out of the way to use the word "fancruft" is probably leaning into navel-gazing, so I decided to not bother. It now says Greenwood contrasted its detailed coverage of the Star Wars Expanded Universe with Wikipedia's more general level of information. (To be very picky, it could be pointed out that Greenwood's exact quote lacks sufficient context to determine if he is deliberately making said contrast, but the source certainly does.) — An anonymous username, not my real name 00:20, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

I think that was a judicious choice. Good work. ThaesOfereode (talk) 13:15, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

• that C-3PO was discharged – Maybe link Military discharge here?

It couldn't hurt. It's been added.

• In 2017, on the 40th anniversary of The Dallas Morning News's 1977 review of Star Wars, the paper issued an apology for misspelling Wookiee as "Wookie" in the review. – Pertinent?

Probably not (?). It was trickier than I expected filling in the pop culture section and that was admittedly a bit forced to include.

That's probably enough for now. I'll come back after these are taken care of. If I don't think of anything, I'll dive into the source review and take a look at the lede. Let me know if you have any questions or need any clarifications. ThaesOfereode (talk) 00:42, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

I have responded to everything now. The bit about Zaalbar and Mission is described a bit differently in the source I found (I haven't personally played the game): it says that Zaalbar cannot switch sides because of the life debt, but Force Persuade is necessary to make him actually kill Mission. I'm not sure if this is an accurate description of how the gameplay works or an embellished retelling. I did end up merging the separate section about Wookiee Jedi in with the rest of the text to make separate discussions of the character Kalnecca flow more smoothly. (As a side note, Kalnecca's name is apparently misspelled in the cited source.) There might be some other things I forgot to mention. — An anonymous username, not my real name 21:34, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Okay looks great. I'll begin the source review shortly.

As for the KOTOR note, Zaalbar kills Mission if you force him to, but if you take him as a companion during the final mission, he tries to kill you and you have to defeat him in combat, so... yes, strictly true that he doesn't switch sides. I don't remember whether Force Persuade is involved, but it's been two or three years since my last playthrough so I'll trust the article here. Good integration of the game; I agree that it's probably a good idea to hold off on talking about the remake until there is a remake to talk about. ThaesOfereode (talk) 00:20, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

Sources

RNG'ing sources to review based on this diff.

1. 4c: Y Checks out
2. 10: Y Checks out
3. 17b: Y Checks out
4. 19: Y Checks out
5. 28: Y Checks out
6. 30: Y Checks out
7. 34: Y Checks out
8. 40: Y Checks out

Easy enough. Good faithful contribution from solid sources. ThaesOfereode (talk) 01:08, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

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