Talk:Wonderwall
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[edit]Page improved with multiple childish and hilarious comments regarding beady eyes performance at the olympics closing ceremony. 90.227.35.127 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:31, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Chords are wrong?
[edit]I believe there are sus notes missing from the chords..
A7sus4 instead of A7, Dsus4 instead of D.. (it can clearly be heard that D and A7 sounds wrong) someone should check a youtube video/dvd and verify the real live chords..
These are the ones I play:
Em7 G Dsus4 A7sus4
their official tab sheet from 1995 says (I got the book):
F#m7 A Esus4 B7sus4 Dmaj7 Esus4 B7sus4 ..
FIXME: check if the chords noted are the correct "live chords", I think sus4 is missing..
Untitled
[edit]what does "wonderwall" means? Search on google. I think thry took it from the name of the George Harrison album. Where he got it from I don't know. There's a line in the Travis song Writing to Reach You "Same old songs on the radio/And what the hell's a wonderwall anyway?"--Crestville 15:50, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC) AMazed to see that that info still hasn't made it into the article! I'll get to it now. The song is indeed named after the George Harrison album Wonderwall Music, which was a soundtrack to a film called Wonderwall. I'll let you click on the link to find out about that! --kingboyk 21:43, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Liam and Noel's estranged father, Thomas Gallagher, gave an interview for Smash Hits in 1996, and he said that the song got its name because Liam and Noel shared a bedroom and that they used to graffiti lyrics and stuff on the walls and that they would call it their "wonderwall". But as far as I'm concerned I doubt that it came from that, it's just named after the George Harrison album. (Andrew07 (talk) 22:58, 22 March 2010 (UTC))
- On this webcast, Noel says the song is inspired by the movie Wonderwall. This explains the reference to it being about an unknown friend who appears to save you, which is part of the plot of the movie. Don't know if this is interesting enough to include on the page. --Mujokan (talk) 03:47, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
"Wonderwall" may even be attributed with leading the band Radiohead from the straight rock and roll
[edit]As far as I can see, this is unconfirmed and most probably is a joke. Should be removed. Please add what instruments are in the song wonderwall. thanks
U2
[edit]There's been talk about the U2 cover. Anyone got opinions on it?
- Please God No.--Crestville 22:37, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
should the cover by cartel for the punk goes 90's complication be included
No and no :)Hrhadam (talk) 01:57, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Original title
[edit]Mr. Monobrow states that the original title was "Wishing Stone". Any sources? æ² ✆ 2006-10-04t11:59z
- A new interview by Noel in UNCUT Magazine. I'll stick in a reference in the article. --Mr. Monobrow 12:08, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
- That's interesting.--Crestville 13:55, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Cover
[edit]I would do this myself, but I don't know how. I know that the song has also been covered by Melissa Rebronja, and the reference can be found here: http://www.melissarebronja.com/music2.htm (it's in the track list I think), but I don't know how to put references in the article. Can someone stick it in please? Thanks a lot! BlueStarz 00:21, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Notable Versions
[edit]I deleted this section. It appeared to be obnoixious selfpromotion via Wikipedia and youtube. Also, redudant as there was already a "cover" section.Ghettodude 23:18, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
- 16 years later this is now history and I'd like to know the 'notable versions' history you rebuked in 2007.
- Could somebody please add a "notable covers" section or something along those lines.
- 24.77.19.163 (talk) 21:09, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
Noel's acoustic guitar part
[edit]"When the song is played at live shows Noel's acoustic guitar part is played on a Fender Telecaster. This is among the rare occasions that Noel plays a Fender guitar rather than a Gibson." Last couple of times ive seen it played live its been on an acoutsic, not a tele. Should we get rid of this line?
- Yeah, he plays it on whatever guitar he has.--Crestville 12:34, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
What instruments are in this song? I know there is a cello, drums, guitar and at least one more instrument. It comes in at first on the: "and all the lives that lead us there are blinding".
1950s mystery song??
[edit]In several interviews with Noel he mentions Alan McGee coming to him and asking "Did you rip wonderwall off this song?!" and then they had a listen to it and were surprised at the likeness. Also he mentions the BBC Radio 1 playing the song. Does any one know what song this is?? It should be mentioned in the article. Here's the interview on youtube: Wonderwall Interview
- Watch the interview again -- was a joke wasntit.
- Hrhadam (talk) 11:45, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- No. I don't think it was, because I've read in interviews as well Noel talking about this song from the 1950s that the BBC would play on the radio saying he stole wonderwall from it.
- Zachiroth (talk) 21:09, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- It's The Mike Flowers Pops cover version of Wonderwall that got to number 2 in the UK charts that Noel's talking about. The article mentions it in the 'Notable cover versions' section. Cavie78 (talk) 13:54, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
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Chord Progression-trivia
[edit]"The Chord Progression to Wonderwall is actually the progression of "A Day In The Life," By The Beatles, in reverse."
Sources? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.66.115.51 (talk) 20:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Placing in last.fm charts
[edit]Wonderwall has consistently ranked high in the last.fm charts for the past few years and seems to be the only enduring "old" song (even after Radiohead's digital release skewed the rankings) to remain on the list week after week. I'm not sure if this is notable or not, but it might be worth a mention http://www.last.fm/music/+charts/track/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phocks (talk • contribs) 02:16, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
incomprehensible sentence
[edit]What is this sentence trying to say? "Fittingly, as widely and self-acknowledged Beatles fans, "Wonderwall Music" was a 60s film & soundtrack written by George Harrison, and the title of his first solo album." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.209.146 (talk) 01:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Most weeks on indie chart ever?
[edit]I believe this song holds that record? (Andrew07 (talk) 21:43, 4 April 2010 (UTC))
Reference number 7
[edit]Dead link. This video has been removed due to terms of use violation Is this video located anywhere else? Battleaxe9872 Talk 19:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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Requested move 5 October 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 05:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
– Is this the primary topic? There's a case to be made with 9x the pageviews of the other topics with this name and a 7x platinum certification in the UK. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 05:19, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support move. This song is clearly the primary topic, with a large lead in pageviews and far more cultural significance than all other Wonderwalls combined. O.N.R. (talk) 23:24, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Split out cover versions
[edit]The Mike Flowers Pops version and Bring Me the Horizon version really clutter up the article after the Chart listings. Should these versions be split out into their own articles to improve readabiility of the main song? DiamondIIIXX (talk) 20:06, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
- @DiamondIIIXX: The resulting articles would be very short, so probably not. Cover versions should only be split off if the information is substantial. ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 20:13, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
- @ResolutionsPerMinute Should they just be mentioned in prose instead of having infoboxes, charts and track listing then? DiamondIIIXX (talk) 20:21, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
- @DiamondIIIXX: Comparing both versions against each other, I think the Mike Flowers Pops version should stay as it is, because there's still a lot of information that could be added to that section based on what's already in it, and considering the fact it was released only a short time after Oasis' version, there's probably a bunch of news articles out there that talk about it. As for the BMtH version, the Track Listings section shouldn't even be there (see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Music#Track listing), and the Lyric Video section does not contain any important information. The song charted only in two countries, so I suppose that section could do with a trimming. Regardless, I wouldn't quite say the article is "cluttered" quite yet. I've seen worse. ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 20:43, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
- @ResolutionsPerMinute Should they just be mentioned in prose instead of having infoboxes, charts and track listing then? DiamondIIIXX (talk) 20:21, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
Peer review
[edit]| This peer review discussion is closed. |
I've listed this article for peer review as I have recently made some improvements and would like feedback on the article as a whole. I think it should be close to GA class and hopefully too much more isn't required to get it there.
Thanks, DiamondIIIXX (talk) 00:25, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
- Overall, the article has good shape, but I recommend:
- In Chart and sales performance, I found {{citation needed}}. This must be addressed first before you nominating the article to GA or FA. Also I believe section name is kinda long for me
- Per WP:LEADCITE, citiations in lead section are usually not welcome.
- The section name, "Anyway, here's Wonderwall meme", is kinda awkward to me. I would just name it as "Usage in other media".
- For GA and FA status,
|alt=is always required in every picture in the article. - In Awards and accolades, why don't you describe them as prose format rather than list?
- Camilasdandelions (✉️) 22:17, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- @Camilasdandelions I've made some changes. Does it look better now? DiamondIIIXX (talk) 10:01, 5 February 2026 (UTC)
Comments from Z1720
[edit]@DiamondIIIXX: Comments after a quick skim:
- I added some citation needed templates to the article.
- Multiple sources seem to be the same and can be merged together. I added a yellow banner at the top to help identify these refs. This can be removed when the issue is resolved.
- "Awards and accolades" should probably be either in a chart or written as prose.
- The "Critical reception" falls into the "X says Y" formatting. I suggest reading WP:RECEPTION and reformatting this section.
I hope this helps. Z1720 (talk) 03:43, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- Fixed the first CN. Second one is cited in the following chart table.
- Fixed what I could. The citations for charts work differently and break when you try to combine them.
- @Z1720 DiamondIIIXX (talk) 01:00, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
GA review
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Nominator: DiamondIIIXX (talk · contribs) 01:17, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
Reviewer: Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) 18:26, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
This song is way too famous for me to not review it!
- Lead
- "Described by lead guitarist and chief songwriter Noel Gallagher, who wrote the song and co-produced it with Owen Morris, as being about "an imaginary friend who's gonna come and save you from yourself", "Wonderwall" reached the top ten in 15 countries; it topped the charts in Australia and New Zealand, peaked at No. 2 on both the UK Singles Chart and the Irish Singles Chart, and reached the top 10 in Canada and the United States, reaching No. 5 and No. 8, respectively, thus becoming the band's sole top-40 entry on the latter country's main Billboard Hot 100 chart, becoming their biggest US hit. " - way too much for one sentence. This should be split into a few sentences.
- Can you expand the lead any more? It seems on the short side.
- Inspiration and writing
- I get an error for ref 6
- The song was originally titled "Wishing Stone". - that's nice, but there's little context for the song's origins. There should probably be something clearer here to identify that Noel Gallagher was the songwriter. It doesn't explicitly say that.
- Recording and production
- "The song was originally planned to be recorded on a ten foot wall outside Rockfield Studios." - is the "ten foot" part needed? Because if so, it needs a metric conversion.
- "Morris produced the song in a half-day along with Gallagher" - since this is the first mention of Owen Morris in the body of the article, his full name should be written out.
- "Wonderwall" is written in the key of F♯ minor and is set in common time with a moderate dance groove. Liam Gallagher's voice ranges from an E3 to an F♯4 in the song." - thank you for including this!
- "With a capo on the second fret, the song's chord progression is Em7–G–Dsus4–A7sus4 as the third and fourth fingers are kept on the third frets of the top two strings." - since you're already being technical, this isn't the chord progression for the entire song. There's a part in the pre-chorus that differs. Also, be sure to wikilink "fret"
- Release
- Shouldn't there be a section for the release of the song, both on the album, as well as a single? The article mentions its release history, but that should be in prose.
- Live performances
- This section feels like it should be after the reception. Compare the article to other featured song articles. The structure is usually writing, then production, then the release, then chart performance, then critical reception... I'm not sure if there is a set preferred style for music articles.
- "It was also played on their reunion tour in 2025." - is "on" the correct word here? "during" or "in" would be better
- Critical reception
- Steve Baltin from Cash Box named "Wonderwall" Pick of the Week, describing the song as "a perfect example of melodic pop." - when?
- Can you turn some of the quotes into critique of the song? It reads like a bunch of random quotes. And some of them are fine if it's a good quote, or there's no other way of describing it.
- Music video
- Can you describe the music video more?
- Track listings
- I was quite confused when I was that there were other songs. Can you mention somewhere earlier in the song, like under "release", that the song was release with B-sides? I know the infobox says that, but it should appear in the article. Also, the infobox only mentions the B-sides in the original release, not the US release. Is that fine?
- Personnel
- There should be a citation for the whole section, instead of citing three of the five people involved
- Mike Flowers version
- "British band the Mike Flowers Pops released an easy listening version of "Wonderwall" that reached No. 2 on the UK Singles Chart—just as the Oasis original had done two months earlier—during Christmas 1995. On New Year's Day 1996, it earned a silver certification from the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) for shipments exceeding 200,000 copies. This cover also peaked within the top 10 of the charts in Denmark, Ireland and Sweden." - source?
- Bring Me the Horizon version
- Should add the year of the release somewhere in prose
In all, the article is in pretty decent shape. Let me know if you have any questions. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:26, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink Thanks for picking this up. I had been periodically checking if it was being reviewed, and looked at it today and saw you had started. I'll try to go over your comments through the next week or so. DiamondIIIXX (talk) 20:44, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
- Lead
- Done
- Inspiration and writing
- These links worked - Google must have removed the previews. I have removed the links and replaced with a basic reference.
- The lead has "chief songwriter Noel Gallagher", and the Recording and production section has "I've got this song called Wonderwall – and I want to record it on a wall." I think that's explicit enough?
- Recording and production
- I don't think they measured it, I think they really just mean a "big wall". I've put the ten foot part in quotations.
- Done
- I didn't add this! But good info indeed
- Changed to main riff instead. And done.
- Release
- Added to Cover art section.
- Would you mind adding a source for "It was also featured on Oasis' second album, (What's the Story) Morning Glory? released earlier in the same month." Also, could you add here that it was the fourth single to be released from the album, as it's said in the lead? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:12, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- Added to Cover art section.
- Live performances
- Wonderwall is a bit different as it was debuted at Glastonbury, a live performance. So part of this is the early history so it kind of fits best at this position in the article.
- Done
- Critical reception
- Done
- Done
- Music video
- Unfortunately there's not too many sources that focus on the content of the music video. There was a lot of unsourced material which I had to remove before this review.
- Track listings
- Done, in Cover art and release section.
- Personnel
- Done
- Mike Flowers version
- It's sourced in the table below. For some reason the references are clunky with song chart articles so I have chosen to leave it.
- Bring Me the Horizon version
- Done
- @Hurricanehink I've gone through your comments and made improvements on the article. Cheers DiamondIIIXX (talk) 02:44, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- @DiamondIIIXX: - thanks for the replies! Just one last issue I'd like addressed before passing the GAN. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:12, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink Done! Cheers DiamondIIIXX (talk) 20:41, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- @DiamondIIIXX: - thanks for the replies! Just one last issue I'd like addressed before passing the GAN. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:12, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- Lead
Passing, looks good! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:32, 8 June 2026 (UTC)