Talk:Whatta Man

Requested move 31 July 2026

Whatta Man → Whatta Man (Salt-N-Pepa song)Whatta Man (Salt-N-Pepa song) – See this comparison for reference. It seems like since the page was split last May, the K-pop song got drastically more views after the group announced a comeback, only to drop to the 90s hip-hop song a month later.

Requester's note: I attempted to move the Salt-N-Pepa song with a disambiguator, but it was reverted with the edit summary: "better initiiate [sic] RM discussion at talk page before re-disambiguating this song". And that's why I'm here. ScarletViolet ★ 11:37, 31 July 2026 (UTC)

• Oppose. Per the nomination, this temporary spike in pageviews has already regressed. The primary topic by both pageviews and long-term notability is the Salt-N-Pepa song. 162 etc. (talk) 15:14, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
• Support. The 1968 song is another significant consideration. Both the Salt-N-Pepa song and the I.O.I song included samples of it, and the name of the song is auditorily indistinguishable. The nominator also made the common mistake of looking only at very short-term pageview data. Ten-year page views show the I.O.I song continually more popular or equally popular over the entire decade since its release. The Salt-N-Pepa song is clearly not a dominant topic. @162 etc.: I suggest to take another look. Note that the pageview comparison tool has been acting strangely for the last couple of days. This should show all three songs over nine years – the ten-year range currently isn't working. The 1968 song seems to be the most popular of the three. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:20, 31 July 2026 (UTC)

  I had no idea about the previous discussion and split that apparently happened two months ago. I now don't know what the pageview plots are showing. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:15, 31 July 2026 (UTC)

Most incoming links for the Salt-N-Pepa version showed up in articles as What a Man (song)#Salt-N-Pepa version until I changed them all a few months ago. So when we're looking at then ten-year stats of all three articles, note that a good chunk of the hits for What a Man (song) are not for Linda Lyndell. The hits for that article fell by almost half from May 2026 to June 2026, which is because that traffic now goes directly to the correct article Whatta Man. 162 etc. (talk) 21:02, 31 July 2026 (UTC)

• Oppose – Stats alone aren't sufficient proof of primacy, unfortunately. The "Whatta Man" page was a redirect to "What a Man (song)"; other readers would've wanted to read the Salt-n-Pepa portion before the recent split this year. Stats may change over the years from now, especially for the original 1960s song. Furthermore, the Korean song was recently made at the time, so that would explain huger numbers in the late 2010s. Well, numbers for the Korean song in 2020s went down and haven't reached the same numbers that it did in 2010s. Furthermore, the attempt to change the title of this article screams recent-ism to me, i.e. "too soon". I'm not confident that the Salt-n-Pepa hasn't had the same primacy that it has had, especially since the Korean song was released. Indeed, the Korean song sampled the Salt-n-Pepa song from what I read, right? George Ho (talk) 17:15, 31 July 2026 (UTC)