Talk:Visual poetry
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When you search for "visual poetry" you should not find yourself on the "concrete poetry" page but on a page specifically for "visual poetry". They're different. "Concrete poetry" refers to a style of visual poetry associated with the late fifties and early sixties pioneered by Gomringer, the de Campos brothers, and Ian Hamilton Finlay, to name a few of the names. "Visual poetry," on the other hand, is a broader term that involves types of poetry distinctly not of a "concrete" variety.
[unsigned comment by 24.68.5.1497, October 2006]
Since April 2009 this article has carried a tab (which I have just refined for clarification) stating that it carried no quoted sources, only a list of references. This counts as Original Research, which is against Wikipedia policy (see WP:OR). Instead of trying to address this, every irresponsible editor since then has added their own equally unsourced opinions, and/or simply added more publications and external links without explaining in what way they were relevant to the subject. It seemed the best idea to return the article to its original state when the tab was added, with the warning that it will be recommended for deletion if it receives no sourced improvements within a reasonable time. Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 09:34, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
Sources existed and the article has been rewritten in the light of these. To record a personal impression, it seems to me that the theorists involved are mostly rationalising on the basis of what is available to them and may be being selective in order to favour their own theses. Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 09:13, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
Seemingly fabricated main section
[edit]"In her survey, Concrete Poetry: A World View (1968), Mary Ellen Solt, observed that certain trends included under the label Concrete Poetry were tending towards a "New Visual Poetry".[2] Its chief characteristic is that it leaves behind the old poetic function of orality and is therefore distinct from the ancient tradition of shaped poetry from which Concrete Poetry claimed to have derived. Visual poetry, on the other hand, is to be distinguished by its deployment of typography.[3]"
^^^ the above references chapters which say no such thing. e.g. nowhere in her concluding chapters does solt claim that visual poetry is not concrete, or that visual poetry always incorporates text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.76.58 (talk) 22:49, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
OK my apologies for misreading the edit, but i think my minor edit is an improvement tbh. solt does NOT claim make either of the above two claims, they've been blown up a little. all the best — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.76.58 (talk) 23:27, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
i just took issue with the use of the term "distinct" (from the phonetic current of concrete poetry) and "distinguished" (by its use of typography). the terms "different" and "determined" would be a much better fit.
The anonymous new editor should learn how to sign in and to edit on Wikipedia before making his opinionated interventions here and in the main article. He should also check his facts. Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 12:54, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
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