Talk:Venstre (Denmark)

Requested move

I know that the name 'Liberal Party' is sometimes used to put Venstre in its international context, but actually the name 'Liberale Parti' is not mentioned once in Venstres webiste nor is it ever mentioned on the Danish version of the article. This article ought to be moved to 'Left (Denmark)'. Of course the origin and meaning of the name ought to be throughly explained. --Soman 16:42, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I suggest to move this party according to the naming conventions to 'Venstre (Denmark)', since in English this name is usually not translated into English. Please compare Det Radikale Venstre, where discussions led to the conclusions that the page should have the name in Danish. The literally translation is never used in any international context. Electionworld 07:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Do note that the party uses the Danish name Venstre on the English version of their website. The phrase 'Denmark's Liberal Party' is not given as a proper name, but just as a description following the Danish name.--Soman 17:14, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The last entry is not completely correct. The party is usually referred to as plain Venstre, but the official name was changed in the 1960s to Venstre, Danmarks Liberale Parti. This is the name used on the ballot paper, on the website of the Danish Parliament etc. Valentinian ^(talk) 00:01, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Support move to Left (Denmark)

1. Support Soman 06:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Support move to Venstre (Denmark)

1. Support, but strongly oppose the move to Left (Denmark) Electionworld 07:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
2. Support - SoM 17:02, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
3. Support - Peregrine981 02:52, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
4. Support - Changed my mind on this one. The party's own naming should be more relevant in this case. Peter Isotalo 14:46, May 8, 2005 (UTC)
5. Support - Agree with mr Isotalo. Jebur 16:36, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Support, according to Wikipedia policy to use the most common name in an English context, see my comment below. / Alarm 19:02, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
2. Support, agree with Alarm, see discussion. Peter Isotalo 12:18, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

Discussion

I suggested at Liberal Party (Norway) to follow there the vote made here Venstre (Norway) Electionworld 07:11, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

According to well-established Wikipedia policy, articles should use the most common name in an English context. Although a Google test obviously has several problems, the margin I get trying what seems to be the best approach is rather convincing, IMO: "liberal party" denmark gets 55,400 English language hits while venstre denmark only gets 8,890. Also, note that the CIA World Factbook uses "Liberal Party" and nothing else. / Alarm 19:02, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I don't want to dump the responsibility of other editors' decisions in other issues on you guys, but there is definetly far too much quirky naming of articles going on with Scandinavian articles. Just have a look at the provinces of Sweden for some truly bizarre article naming. There is too much of a tendency to make straight translations of purely Danish/Norwegian/Swedish words, terms and names and expect them to work in English without any regard to actual usage. The most common terms as established by Googling and checking other reliable sources should be used, no question about it. The Left (Denmark) is especially poorly suited for an English language article and merely confusing for the purposes of a Wikipedia. Peter Isotalo 12:18, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

Well, the google search quantity method is to some extent a tautology, since many of the articles containing "liberal party" denmark are either copies of the wikipedia or the CIA Factbook. Also, I think the issue of the Swedish provinces is an entirely different problem. "The Left" is a well-used English term. In either case the name needs to be explained to the reader, no matter were the article is shifted. --Soman 13:14, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

In a political context though, "The Left" or "Left Wing" is always used as a general term in English - "Labour is the party of the Left", "He's on the Left Wing" of his party, etc. - SoM 18:56, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm convinced. I vote for moving it to Venstre (Denmark). The offical name is more relevant in this case, but with a redirect from Liberal party (Denmark), of course. Peter Isotalo 14:46, May 8, 2005 (UTC)

Decision

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. Venstre (Denmark) was the preferred choice. violet/riga (t) 18:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Historic party platform

I wasn't sure if this can be used as a source in the page, but I came across this page on the Danish version of Wikisource that includes a transcript of an old platform Venstre stood on back in 1909. The page also makes references to past policies the party called for e.g. extensions in social insurance. Its quite interesting, as it provides an insight into the ideology of the party at that time:

https://da.wikisource.org/wiki/Venstrereformpartiets_Program_af_1909

zictor23 (talk) 13:49, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 31 August 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 17:37, 16 September 2025 (UTC)

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• Venstre (Denmark) → Venstre
• Venstre → Venstre (disambiguation)Venstre (disambiguation)

– Only party with the article title "Venstre"; the Norwegian one is just "Liberal Party". Also, overwhelming pageviews since 2020. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 20:11, 31 August 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPath^talk 05:47, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. Both parties are called Venstre and there's no primary topic as demonstrated by pageviews, wikinav and ghits. DrKay (talk) 10:53, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Oppose The Norwegian counterpart is also named Venstre in Norwegian. The only reason it's article name is "Liberal Party" is because of a long-standing convention to translate Norwegian party names when it comes to English translations. Gust Justice (talk) 17:33, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Politics/Political parties, WikiProject Politics, WikiProject Conservatism, and WikiProject Denmark have been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPath^talk 05:48, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.