Talk:Upper Fells Point

Boundaries

Why are the boundaries being changed for this neighborhood? According to the city map the boundaries Upper Fells Point are Patterson Park to the east, Pratt Street to the north and Eastern Avenue to the south. A portion of the neighborhood extends to the water’s edge from Washington Street to Montford Avenue. The neighborhood contains two community associations, The Upper Fells Point Improvement Association and Fells Prospect. The boundaries which were recently inserted into the article, "Bordered by Broadway on the west, Washington Street on the east, Eastern Avenue on the south, and Lombard Street on the north" are the boundaries of the Upper Fells Point Improvement Association, not the boundaries of the actual neighborhood. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pursesnatchaz (talk • contribs) 22:43, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

The National Register of Historic Places

The National Register of Historic Places places the eastern boundary at Patterson Park Ave.

MARYLAND, BALTIMORE INDEPENDENT CITY,

Upper Fells Point Historic District,

Roughly bounded by E Baltimore St.; S Chapel St.; E Pratt St.; S Patterson Park Ave.; S Chester, Gough & S Bethel Sts.,

Baltimore, 07001034,

LISTED, 12/20/07 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pursesnatchaz (talk • contribs) 23:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Fells Prospect

"Once called Fells Prospect, today the area north of Historic Fells Point is known to community members as Uppers Fells Point. However, the eastern portion of the community, from Washington Street to Patterson Park, continues to be known as Fells Prospect" The community association is known as Fells Prospect, but the neighborhood is not. The Fells Prospect community association even states that it is an "Upper Fells Point West Canton Community Association". The mission statement of the Fells Prospect community association is " Fells Prospect works to promote the common welfare of the residents of the Upper Fells Point and West Canton communities, to more effectively advocate their concerns to the entities of state and local government and to provide a model neighborhood to work, live and learn.Pursesnatchaz (talk) 23:26, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Entire Article

This article is inaccurate in most respects, and should not be presented as it is in Wikipedia. In places, it sounds like a casually written real estate promotion. Many errors and unsubstantiated statements point directly to arbitrary repetition of previous anecdotal writings not referenced here. It consists mainly of original invention, skewed by the author towards a Hispanic focus. The references include media feature articles and information from a decidedly interested community group, both of original invention. The reference for the inadequate immigration history is broken and was from a limited and suspect source. The neighborhood is not known as Fell’s Prospect (a community group) or Spanish Town (a business group’s name for a couple of blocks on Broadway – fading as Hispanics move out to less expensive areas). To people not of the area, this neighborhood is simply included in the broader district of Baltimore known as Fell’s Point. The history is completely unresearched and misleading. For example, there is no mention of the significant Ukrainian history in the area – among many other omissions, including the twentieth century. The history of the area has never been well documented and accounts change with the current residents’ experiences, ignorance, prejudices, or fantasies – it was fairly unremarkable for much of its existence and was, for some time, considered a slum. The fact that it was ignored for so long contributed to the survival of so many of the original rowhouses. The area bounded by Lombard St., Eastern Ave., Washington St., and Broadway is about 50 acres – extending the boundaries to those stated in the Historic District box would result in an area over 100 acres. The boundaries of this neighborhood are arbitrary – they are described differently by any number of entities, including the City of Baltimore, but are not defined legally. No edits to the article have been made here. Eastbaltimoreguy (talk) 11:43, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 12 September 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Moved as an uncontested request with minimal participation. If there is any objection within a reasonable time frame, please ask me to reopen the discussion; if I am not available, please ask at the technical requests page. (non-admin closure) veko. (user | talk | contribs) he/him 16:00, 19 September 2025 (UTC)

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Upper Fell's Point → Upper Fells Point – Following the consensus on the Fells Point talk page, the same logic applies for a move of this page back to its original title of Upper Fells Point to be WP:CONSISTENT. To review, the apostrophized name "Fell's Point" was historically accurate, but contemporary usage, official and general, primarily uses the unapostrophized version. "Upper Fells Point" is an extension of that name and its history, and similarly, modern usage supports the unapostrophized version. Usage supporting the move: National Register of Historic Places listing, LiveBaltimore, Baltimore Board of Elections map, Department of Planning Neighborhood Statistical Areas Map, Google Ngram, recent news hits on Google News 1, 2, 3. The only substantial counterpoint I could find is that one of the local neighborhood groups, "Upper Fell's Point Improvement Association" uses the apostrophized version on its website. But even here, usage of the unapostrophized version to refer to this group is as or more common, as on their IRS designation, Facebook page, their listing in the Community Association Directory, news coverage of the group, etc. In addition, the "Fells Prospect Community Association," whose territory also encompasses this neighborhood, opts for "Upper Fells Point" on its website. I also want to call attention to the fact that in this case the article body also adheres to the unapostrophized name, with the title itself only differing due to an undiscussed 2011 move. Sauzer (talk) 13:05, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

Pinging @GcSwRhIc:, @X96lee15:, @Praxidicae: due to previous name-related engagement in the article history. Sauzer (talk) 13:10, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.