Talk:Untilted

Hi, this is getting out of hand. I propose we move this page back to where it should be, i.e. Untilted. The move from "untilted - fakes" to "IDM releases - fakes" shouldn't have happened because this article only concerns a single release. It's also my opinion that the fake information should be on the Untilted page and not in a separate "fakes details" subpage, unless it grows to be so massive that it warrants splitting. Therefore I propose its moved to Untilted. --Sund 01:53, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

trackilist/times

we could do with a track/timelisting for each of the 4 main leaks (there may well be a fifth circulating, i haven't had a chance to grab it yet). Anyone up for this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattB (talk • contribs) 14:34, 16 February 2005 (UTC)

..i wish :) ...im having enough trouble keeping track of them... there are two torrents for the same files up on torrentspy.com and this http://www.uber-doom.com/autechre2005/ has a rar of what i belive is V2 which was just confirmed to be the beheading hoax guy. i did an update: but that information should really be better integrated into the article.... it would be kind of neat to leave the old , outdated info inline with this article (maybe a different color to designate that it has been disproven or something) just to retain all the different facets to this.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Alibosworth (talk • contribs) 06:28, 17 February 2005 (UTC)

Page move

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request:

IDM releases - Fakes → Untilted

Article concerns faked leaks of a sigle album and thus should be placed in an article for that album. -- Sund 01:59, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Support this is the craziest thing i have ever seen, we have to restore some semblance of order to this article. alibosworth (although i would like to hear any reasons for this mad system of redirects)
• Oppose. There are many things titled (ironically) "Untitled," and to be honest, I'm not sure that this article wouldn't be better off on VFD. A.D.H. (t&m) 03:32, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)
  • It's untilted. Not sure about the VFD; I tend to stay away from albums. --SPUI (talk) 09:19, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Neutral Usually on VFD the vote would be something like "Delete...When the album comes out, come backand write the article if becomes notable" but right now, I'd recommend for VfD (which I'm tempted to do). Is it "Untitled" or "Untilted"? AND...why is it a double redirect? —ExplorerCDT 05:27, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Support this should have never been moved.
• Support This article's existence is really out of kindness to the Record Label Records crew. It's unnecessary entirely, but at least in Untilted it will be less silly. <3, Junjk

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GA review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Untilted/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Rambley (talk · contribs) 00:36, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Dentsinhere43 (talk · contribs) 11:14, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I'll be reviewing this article for GA status, expect more comments to come. Note that this'll be my first GA review.

Criteria

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.

   a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   Both non-free media have valid rationales, and the audio snippet complies with WP:SAMPLE.

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

After a few corrections, this article seems fine to me. Congrats! - Dents (talk2me 🖂) he/him btw!!! 12:16, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

Lead

• No comments here.
• The second paragraph says that they "began to move back to consistent beats and traditional rhythms for the album", although in the next section, it says they did so in their previous album, which was released two years prior.

Would "The album saw Autechre members Sean Booth and Rob Brown continue to move back to consistent beats and traditional rhythms," be preferable? Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:37, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

That would be acceptable. - Dents (talk2me 🖂) he/him btw!!! 07:19, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 10:25, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

Background

• Background -> Background and recording

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:04, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

• I suggest linking Draft 7.30.

 Done, I believe in a previous version of the lede Draft had a Wikilink and it just wasn't updated when the lede was updated. Oops. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:04, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

• "Starting with Draft 7.30" -> "In Draft 7.30" with a mention that it is their previous album.

 Done. Don't mind finding a source for this claim if you think it's necessary. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:04, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

• "Many samples were used throughout the album, some obvious and some more unknown." Looks like close paraphrasing w/ the source; You can shorten this to just "Many samples were used throughout the album."

 Done with a slight tweak in wording. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:04, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

• "no opportunity for review unlike digital technology, allowing the duo to [...]" This seems unclear on what this means.

It's unclear to me too and I think this part sucks. Perhaps it can be outright removed and replaced with a better part from the same quote, like "Booth described how analogue technology lacked visual interfaces, which helped him compose music." If not, we can just remove it entirely. What do you think? Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:04, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

I think replacing with that is a better option. - Dents (talk2me 🖂) he/him btw!!! 07:24, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 10:25, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

Music

• This section looks like it's overquoting a bit.
• I might be a bit picky here, but:
  • In the source, "abstract" is used for Autechre themselves, not the album.
  • Experimental is the same.

 Done. Hah. Gotta love genres in album articles. I've replaced the two sources with a single Igloo Magazine source that tags it as both experimental and abstract, so hopefully that's ok. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:26, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

• Link Gantz Graf.

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:26, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

• Omit "rhythmic patterns and".

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:26, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

• Dissolving in static -> Dissolving into static

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:26, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

• Closer "Sublimit" was originally one of Booth and Brown's longest works. -> Closer "Sublimit" was one of Autechre's longest songs.

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:26, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

• This section could have some uses of the Stylus Magazine source.

 Done. Added some more descriptions for tracks that were particularly short or otherwise lacking. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 11:02, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

Release

• "He concluded that the leaker's "sense of priority is clearly fucked"." You can add some context to this, by mentioning that the leak was following a "hoax beheading of a US marine in Iraq".

 Done, changed to "He also said that the leaker's "sense of priority is clearly fucked" as they treated a recent hoax beheading of a US marine in Iraq and the leak as equally relevant". Could maybe be tightened further. Thanks for pointing that out. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 10:24, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

• Is it known whether "America" just refers to the United States?

 Done, changed to "the United States" for clarity.

Reception

• Reuse the Austin American-Statesman source in the start of the second paragraph.

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 10:47, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

• how the duo had found a middle ground between science and art. -> how the duo had found a "middle ground between [science and art]".

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 10:47, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

• Italicize Untilted in the Exclaim! quote.

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 10:47, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

• Link Andy Gill in prose and the ref.

 Not done. As the page you've linked says, "Gill was often mistaken for the journalist and music critic Andy Gill (1953–2019), who began his career at the NME in 1977 and was chief music critic of The Independent from 1990". The reviewer has no existing article. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 10:47, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

You can leave an invisible comment about that if you want to. - Dents (talk2me 🖂) he/him btw!!! 10:54, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 11:03, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

• Link Dominique Leone in prose and the ref.

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 10:47, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

• The sentence for PopMatters cites the Pitchfork review instead.

Oops.  Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 10:47, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

• "Writing for Stylus, Scott McKeating said the duo may have succeeded in blending human feeling and machine-like precision in their music, which was something that many electronic musicians often fail to achieve." Where in the Stylus article said this? This should be rewritten.

 Done. This was an attempted paraphrasing of the conclusion, but it's not great. I'll just use the actual quote instead. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 10:47, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

• I can't seem to find an online archive of the Billboard article that has the 7/10 rating, is it seen in a physical issue of Billboard or somewhere else?

This was derived from the Metacritic page which lists a 70/100 score. I can either change it to be that exact number or I can just remove it from the template. Whichever you prefer. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 11:11, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

I would prefer removing it from the template, as the rating isn't verifiable right now. - Dents (talk2me 🖂) he/him btw!!! 11:13, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

Removed. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 11:22, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

Charts

• I've found a missing Billboard chart, note that it's listed as "Untitled".

 Done. Template:Album chart has no support for US Dance Albums so I've tried to do it manually instead. I'm still very new to charts and such so hopefully it's serviceable for now. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 10:33, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

The template does support it, it's under "BillboardDanceElectronic". - Dents (talk2me 🖂) he/him btw!!! 10:36, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

Fixed! Thank you. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 10:49, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

References

• For ref 5:
  • BBC - collective - autechre q&a -> autechre q&a
  • BBC -> Collective, add BBC as the publisher.

 Done for both. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:34, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

• Ref 10 and 15 are duplicates.

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:34, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

• Ref 11 and 28 are duplicates.

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:34, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

• For refs 13–14: remove website parameter.

 Done. Rambley 🦝 (talk) 23:34, 10 July 2025 (UTC)