Talk:Trembleuse

Trembleuse springs

What about the trembleuse springs on certain tiaras, e.g. Queen Caroline of Naples briar rose/jasmine flower diadem/tiara?--Terminallyuncool2 (talk) 21:50, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

That's just a different meaning. Johnbod (talk) 13:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Trembleuse and enfoncé

As far as I know, these are actually two different things. The Spanish mancerina is yet another similar, but not-quite-the-same saucer. THe creation dates are roughly beginning of the 16th century (mancerina), the end of 17th century for trembleuse, mid-18th century for enfoncé. Different drinks: chocolate for mancerina and trembleuse, milk for enfoncé. Викидим (talk) 11:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, the soucoupe enfoncé has the main saucer raised, with a sunken "socket" for the cup. The trembleuse is the opposite, with the socket raised above the saucer base. The former could be added to saucer, or here, or get its own article. Don't know about the mancerina. Johnbod (talk) 13:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Mancerina here. Chinese cupholders in Ru ware etc also need coverage. Johnbod (talk) 13:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

There appears to be not much information on soucoupe enfoncé. It might make sense to have a section in saucer until someone find a good RS. Викидим (talk) 22:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

I think the aim is the same as for the Trembleuse, so it may make sense to treat them together. Hillier, Bevis, Pottery and Porcelain 1700-1914: England, Europe and North America (series The Social History of the Decorative Arts), 1968, Weidenfeld & Nicolson, ISBN 0297176684. p.63 says both terms come under the term "trembleuse". Don't know about that. Johnbod (talk) 18:31, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 talk 17:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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Vienna porcelain trembleuse cup, c. 1730

• ... that trembleuse cups and saucers enabled people with unsteady hands to drink hot beverages?

• Source: Hillier, Bevis, Pottery and Porcelain 1700-1914: England, Europe and North America (series The Social History of the Decorative Arts), p. 63, 1968, Weidenfeld & Nicolson, ISBN 0297176684

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Richard Du Cann
  • Comment: sorry, a bit late - I've been away

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 242 past nominations.

Johnbod (talk) 21:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC).

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New enough: Long enough:

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Overall: I can't verify the majority of these sources, but looks good to me. Good job on expanding the article. TheBritinator (talk) 01:25, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

• Johnbod there is one uncited sentence I have tagged. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
  • I've commented it out for now. It is clearly true, as photos in the article and on Commons show, but I'm not going to hunt for the ref at this time of year. Johnbod (talk) 04:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Glosses

The article glosses German terms immediately, but French terms only late in the piece (and "gobelet et soucoupe enfoncé" is never explained). Could glosses for them be added to the lead? Furius (talk) 11:58, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Suggestions? The German terms are a lot easier - I don't know that my sources have a go at the French. Johnbod (talk) 18:39, 1 January 2025 (UTC)