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Latest comment: 16 years ago by RadicalTwo in topic Question

"Promo" CD score

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Anyone have any information w.r.t. the "Promo" CD that appears to be making its rounds through the Internet? Like who leaked it, is it an official release or candidate for release or something?

Here's the track list I've found of that CD.

01 - Bogey Approach - Under Attack - Transformer Takes Aim
02 - Soldiers Arrive
03 - Camaro On the Run
04 - Scorpinok
05 - Pink Bike Pursuit
06 - Are You LadiesMan217
07 - Autobots to the Rescue
08 - When Feds Attack - Bumblebee Captured
09 - Hoover Dam
10 - Stumble Bumble
11 - Soldiers Retreat - Take the Cube - Megatron vs Optimus
12 - No Sacrifice, No Victory
13 - Sam Our Hero
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.86.143.192 (talk) 06:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Is this the one with Bumblebee on the cover? Sarujo 16:21, 18 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

The complete promo CD actually has 52 tracks, many of them under a minute long, for a total length of 1 hour, 17 minutes. These appear to be the actual music cues as used in the movie, rather than the full-length versions meant for solo listening, and many of the cues missing from the 1-disc set can only be found in that at the moment. It would be nice to have some mention of it made in the article, but I can't find any source of detailed information about it apart from torrents where it can be downloaded. —Robotech_Master 03:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

It appears there are two such promo scores. The one I listed above is the first one, and it recently went on eBay. It does *not* have Bumblebee on the cover (I did snag a copy of the cover art, unfortunately, I don't know the legality of actually posting it on Wikipedia since it most likely is copyrighted). It's different from the real score, and it does say "Advance Score from Motion Picture" along the top. I'd add more, but alas, I lost (my bid just wasn't high enough). I won't post any more info on this promo score until I actually have the physical disc in my hands. All I've gotten now is some extra cover art.

I have encountered the 52 track one only via the Internet, but nothing physical has shown up via eBay or any other site. 24.86.143.192 07:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

What shipping delay?

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Amazon aren't taking one to three weeks to ship; I ordered my copy on Thursday night and recieved it on Saturday thanks to the insta-shippy thing. That said I did order off .co.uk, so maybe it means it just needs to get over the pond... Lady BlahDeBlah (talk) 16:10, 17 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Question

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I have come across a great many people who comment on the score's stylistic similarity to the works of Zimmer, and I have noticed something to that effect myself. (I'm a fan of the score, so I am not intending to attack it.) Should there be a (cited) mention of some sort in the article? It does seem to be one of the first things people say when hearing of the score... RadicalTwo (talk) 04:19, 31 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

If we can find a cited article, then yes. Either Steve Jablonsky himself commenting on it, or perhaps a reviewer of the score commenting on how similar it was to Zimmer. Either of these would be an acceptable source. I'll check around IGN and see what I can find. Anakinjmt (talk) 05:28, 31 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
I know of one film-score-reviewing site that mentioned this; the only thing is that it appears visibly biased against Zimmer's studio in general. For that reason, I am not particularly eager to include it, but what do others think? RadicalTwo (talk) 14:37, 31 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
What's the link? We might be able to work around it. Anakinjmt (talk) 17:13, 31 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
Here it is here: http://www.moviemusicuk.us/transformerscd.htm
I don't see how it can be worked around, given the following excerpts, deriding the composers, studio, or listeners:
  • "Fanboys are funny creatures. On the one hand they are often derided for being misguidedly devoted to a particular composer to the point of obsession, and dismissed by film music ‘elder statesmen’ as being ignorant or – worse still – indifferent to the Golden Age glories of the past, or of any kind of musical endeavor outside their narrow genre preferences."
  • "what was all the fuss about?!"
  • "Steve Jablonsky’s career, in my opinion, has been one which promised much but delivered little."
  • "It’s easy to stoop to dismissive comments about it sounding like every other Media Ventures action score since time began"
  • "underpinned by both electric pulses and synth percussion, relentlessly pounding underneath the impenetrable orchestral carnage"
  • "For all its blaring themes and huge choruses, Transformers remains a score which is little more than a pale imitation of other works, and throughout the entire running time its almost impossible to shake the nagging notion that you’ve heard it all before, and usually done much better"
  • "Did you love the score for Crimson Tide? Did you think King Arthur was the best score of 2004? Did you consider Armageddon to be a turning point in recent film music history? Did you rush out and buy the CDs for The Peacemaker and/or The Rock? If you answered one or more of those questions in the affirmative, I don’t think I need to say anything else."
RadicalTwo (talk) 18:38, 31 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

(retab) Honestly, that doesn't look like a very legit review site. Seems more like something some guy works on in his spare time. Doesn't seem to be all that credible. Anakinjmt (talk) 19:58, 31 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

I agree. You see what I meant...I only found it by chance, looking for a CD cover, and then searched it out of curiosity. Needless to say, I was shocked at the rather...opinionated text. Though I have heard from other sources how stylistically similar Transformers is to other scores, which is what impelled me to post a section here in the first place. (On a sidenote, that link is in fact included as a source on the "film score" article; I tried removing it, only to be reverted.) RadicalTwo (talk) 20:11, 31 October 2009 (UTC)Reply
What? Where? I didn't see anything. You mean on this article, right? Anakinjmt (talk) 04:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
No, on the article "Film Score" - it's not there because I deleted it again, but I'll bet it will be reverted by someone who shares the opinions of the "professional" reviewer. RadicalTwo (talk) 16:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)Reply