Talk:Torne Valley

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In Sweden, Tornedalen/Torne valley does not refer to the actual river valley but to the originally Finnish-speaking parts of the most northern parts of the country. It is IMO confusing to say that it is an area on both sides of the river, in both countries. Is the concept "Torne Valley" used in Finland at all regarding the Finnish part of the valley? If not, maybe we can remove the "Finland related stub"-tag. If an equivalence of the word is used in a different way in Finnish, though, then things are different. / Habj 21:22, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

No, it definately applies to the Finnish side as well, the finnish name is Tornionlaakso. 64.173.240.130 17:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

City of Tornio and muncipalities of Ylitornio, Muonio and Kolari are refered as Torniojoenlaakso in Finland. Also there is an official subregion called "Torniolaakson seutukunta" or "Tornedalensregionen" consisting of Pello and Ylitornio. So, this is not a "Swedish only" thingie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.156.118.211 (talk) 20:05, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

It is my experience in researching my genealogy in the Torne Valley that the article is accurate. I have edited links to the article, including one to a well known and established genealogist in the article (to Nils Johan Fosli's website.) Nils Johan Fosli is well regarded internationally as an expert on Troms, Norway genealogy, which includes Kvaen folk who migrated from Torne Valley to Troms in the mid-1700's. He is also related to those Kvaen migrants.

As for the question about the "tone" of the article, I cannot see anything negative or demeaning in the article. I presume this question arose purely because of the use of Finnish and Norwegian language and placenames.--Rgsundin (talk) 15:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC) --Rgsundin (talk) 15:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Suggesting move

Although we follow the principle of WP:UE, I suggest this article be moved to Tornedalen. I've heard that name frequently enough in English while I've never encountered "Torne Valley" outside this article. Using English for a place like Gothenburg is obvious, but let's not overdo it either :) JdeJ (talk) 09:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Why should it be Swedish name? It could as well be Tornionjokilaakso (Finnish) or Meanmaa (Meankieli). --PauliKL (talk) 10:38, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Due to the complications of a cross border geographical feature I think that the current name is OK. If it had been completely located within Sweden, a move to Tornedalen had been more motivated. Tomas e (talk) 15:57, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I'd suggest it would be moved to only Meänmaa because it as its name suggests, it's directly linked to Meänkieli. McLennonSon (talk) 07:59, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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Requested move 4 May 2026

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The result of the move request was: moved. Clear consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) 1isall (talk | contribs) 12:28, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

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Meänmaa → Torne Valley – The established english name for this region is Torne Valley. This was also the name of the article up until 2014. The name "Meänmaa" appears to have been coined fairly recently by Bengt Pohjanen. FrinkMan (talk) 11:10, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Support. "Torne Valley" is more common than "Meänmaa" in Google Books. "Torne Valley" is also more neutral, since "Meänmaa" is tied to the promotion of the linguistic identity of Meänkieli speakers. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 08:07, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

Support. While Meänmaa is a perfectly valid name that should be mentioned in the article, Torne Valley is certainly the WP:COMMONNAME, per Google Books and Google Scholar. ⹃Maltazarian ^{ᚾparley$\lor$investigateᛅ} 09:19, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

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Definite (the) or not?

Hi! I with the recent move from Meänmaa to Torne Valley (which I agree with) I realised that sometimes on Wikipedia it is written as the Torne Valley and sometimes simply Torne Valley. In Swedish it is always definite Tornedalen so that is what I've used when writing, but I realise this may not necessarily be correct? Are there any native English speakers who could confirm if the definite article should be used or not? Thanks! ~tervheiset, Hosumaija 06:47, 23 June 2026 (UTC)