Talk:Tonyukuk
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[edit]This site claims "47º21´N, 107º45´E, 65 km southeast from Ulaanbaatar", but there seems to be nothing there. It is also in obvious conflict with the site near Nalaikh described by Ross, in modern travel guides, and reported by people on the internet who have actually visited the site. I thought maybe there are two monuments, but kaznpu.kz clearly says that this is the "Bayn Tsokto" site. So it seems they just got the coordinates wrong. They also claim the site is called "Tsagaa Ovoo", which is probably a mistake derived from the fist one(?), and this name made it onto Wikipedia, and from there all over the internet. There is a site with this name, Tsagaan-Ovoo, Dornod, but it someplace else entirely. --dab (𒁳) 11:36, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
yeah, so I understand that "tsagaan ovoo" means more or less "white cairn", and may in principle be given to any whitish heap of stones, so perhaps the Nalaikh site is locally known by this name, and maybe it isn't, who knows. The point is that the coordinates are off by about 40 km. --dab (𒁳) 11:40, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
He didn't die in 724!
[edit]Please read the books of Osman Fikri Sertkaya. Tonyukuk was still alive in 731! Böri (talk) 10:35, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
- Which book? Prof. Pedantic (talk) 16:28, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
You may want to cite your source instead of asking people to read it. Fwiiw, this source says "d. c. 726". --dab (𒁳) 11:12, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
- I don't have to show anything! Osman Fikri Sertkaya says " The Tonyukuk Monument" was a reply to "The Köl Tigin Monument". So the Tonyukuk Monument was written after the Köl Tigin Monument. Böri (talk) 15:08, 1 March 2012 (UTC)