Talk:Tito Traversa

Expansion needed

He climbed, he died. Surely there is more than that! WWGB (talk) 00:04, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

I helped a little. Kind of an interesting facet of the case: the manufacturer that made the equipment that failed as well as the store that sold it are being charged criminally with manslaughter. The American system may be effed up, but can you imagine going to prison for failing to provide an instruction booklet with a product you've made? For selling an item that someone used incorrectly? More than a little screwed up if you ask me. I'm a little annoyed that this editor keeps making articles without putting forth any effort to research them or write them. Bali88 (talk) 00:41, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Renaming This Page

I'm grateful to the article's creator for the observation that this article was originally titled "Tito Traversa", and I can see that another editor decided to rename it. I think we might find it useful to examine where the notability is in this case: is it in Tito's tragic death, or is it in his earlier life? I see from the references that Tito had reached a high level of accomplishment in climbing at a very young age, and seems to have generally been described as a "prodigy" in the field. It's not clear that his death, on its own, is notable - climbers do fall, and even if there is a court case as a result it's not obvious that this is per se notable, unless it has broader consequences (a change in the law, for example). But as a young, competition-winning climber it may be that Tito was notable in his own right. We may need to take some time sorting the wheat from the chaff in this if we are to reach a fair conclusion. I'll be interested to hear your comments. RomanSpa (talk) 01:44, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Agreed that it should just be his name — Omegatron (talk) 03:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

The article in its current state (as of 13 August 2025) only covers his death and makes no mention of his climbing accomplishments, but if the article were to be expanded to include more about his life, I'd support a move back to "Tito Traversa". —⁠k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 00:43, 13 August 2025 (UTC)

Self-published blog for Ramón Julian Puigblanque

I added a self-published source for the bit about Ramón Julian Puigblanque dedicating his victory at the 2013 Rock Master to Tito Traversa:

The 2013 [[Rock Master]] played a special video dedicated to Tito on the maxi-screen; Tito had dreamed of competing at the Rock Master.<ref name="PlanetMountain 2013-09-08" /><ref name="Rock Master 2013-09-07" /> [[Ramón Julian Puigblanque]] dedicated his victory at the Rock Master to Tito.<ref name="Puigblanque 2013" />

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<ref name="PlanetMountain 2013-09-08">{{Cite web |date=2013-09-08 |title=Rock Master Lead: outstanding victory by Puigblanque and Mina Markovic |url=https://www.planetmountain.com/en/news/competitions/rock-master-lead-outstanding-victory-by-puigblanque-and-mina-markovic.html |access-date=2025-08-13 |website=PlanetMountain.com}}</ref>
<ref name="Puigblanque 2013">{{Cite web |last=Puigblanque |first=Ramón Julian |date=2013-09-09 |title=VENCEDOR DEL ROCKMASTER DE ARCO 2013 |url=https://ramonjulian.blogspot.com/2013/09/vencedor-del-rockmaster-de-arco-2013.html |access-date=2025-08-14 |website=Ramon Julian}}</ref>
</references>

As much as I dislike citing these sources, I couldn't find another source that supports this statement. I'm operating under the assumption this falls under WP:BLPSELFPUB, in that the source is supporting a statement that Ramón personally made about his own victory at the event. However, if someone disagrees, I won't object to its removal from the article. —⁠k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 16:49, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Requested move 17 March 2026

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 00:19, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

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Death of Tito Traversa → Tito Traversa – Per #Renaming This Page above; I've expanded the article so that it's no longer solely about the subject's death, but also includes their life. There have been questions about the subject's notability, but the most recent AfD seems to have concluded that the subject's death was notable, at the very least. After finding numerous sources reporting on the subject's life and accomplishments, I'm inclined to argue that the subject's life may also be notable, and the article's name should be changed to reflect that. (I'm considering this to be a controversial move, since there's been discussion about this in the past) —⁠k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 16:55, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

• Support per nomination and the work on the page by the nominator. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:01, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.