Talk:Tim Sheehy

Sheehy Family Foundation

Hi everyone. Tim Sheehy and his family have made various donations, and it seems like information that should be included in his Personal life section. Below are some specifics with sources, and I would appreciate an experienced editor like Green Montanan taking a look and adding to the page.

• Sheehy and his family run the Sheehy Family Foundation with a focus on health and education in Montana. This included a $4 million contribution to the neonatal intensive care unit and pediatrics at Bozeman Health, $1 million to the Trauma Center at the Billings Clinic, $1 million to the Belgrade public library, and $500,000 to the Montana Historical Society among others.

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Thanks so much! Clarkfork79 (talk) 14:53, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

This seems like good content to add to the article under a new section "Family Foundation". The problem is there is not much information about the foundation itself. The foundation's own website lacks basic information such as when was it formed?

Is the foundation is just a paper entity? If that's the case, then we obviously wouldn't create a subsection about it, but we could still add to the personal life section that Tim and his wife have made various donations to non-profit organizations within Montana.

So the way you answer my question about the foundation would depend on how I would add the requested content to the article. Green Montanan (talk) 18:29, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

So in the meantime I added this single sentence to the personal life section of the article. I am sorry to make it sound like he made donations just to bolster his credentials as a candidate, but has he made any big donations since being elected (10 months ago)?

The Bozeman Daily article about his $1 million donation to a public library in Belgrade is from April 2025 (5 months after the election), but since it was about the grand opening of the library (end of construction), and not about the ground breaking of the library (start of construction), I assume that the donation was made before the election, as construction probably took longer than 5 months (and a donation for construction would have to have been made before construction began).

I also assume that the $6 million in donations reported by the Daily Montanan does not include the $1 million for the library in Belgrade, but because I'm not sure, so I didn't adjust the $6 million figure to reflect that. Green Montanan (talk) 19:30, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

Not done for now: Possibly inactive requester, pending answers to questions by (courtesy ping) Green Montanan. Best, GoldRomean (talk) 22:05, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

Breaks arm of protestor

He broke the arm of a protestor on March 4, 2026. ~2026-10912-60 (talk) 22:28, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

The Protestor was a U.S. Marine. His arm was wedged into a door when the Senator attacked, and the arm snapped. Later, he told a bystander to "go fuck yourself." ~2026-13399-37 (talk) 23:20, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

please discuss what should go in the article here instead of edit warring Pencilceaser123 (talk) 01:21, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Recommended rewrite for clarity:

On March 4, 2026, Sheehy assisted Capitol Police to eject an anti-war protester from a Senate Armed Services Subcommittee meeting. The altercation resulted in the protester suffering a broken arm. The protester, Sgt. Brian McGinnis, is a Marine Corps Veteran and the Green Party nominee for the 2026 United States Senate election in North Carolina. McGinnis had been asking the committee why they are sending troops to die for Israel. During the scuffle, a Capitol Police officer forcefully opened an exit door, pinning McGinnis's left arm between the door and its frame. As several officers and Sheehy lifted McGinnis and pulled him through the doorway, McGinnis's forearm snapped. McGinnis was arrested and transported to a hospital for treatment. [63][64] ~2026-14262-89 (talk) 07:07, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Sounds good. Save quotes for the "die for Israel" part and that the protestor claimed to have a broken arm, not proven Pencilceaser123 (talk) 21:50, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Original video https://x.com/alanhe/status/2029301477341061613 — Preceding unsigned comment added by FreeJax (talk • contribs) 09:58, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Here is a source. This seems like WP:NOTNEWS to me. "McGinnis is heard on the video saying his left arm was broken" is also not the same as "Sheehy breaks arm of protester." Marquardtika (talk) 14:42, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Please explain how it is WP:NOTNEWS before WP:REMOVAL. Kire1975 (talk) 19:44, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

The copy you removed doesn't say Sheehy breaks arm of protester. It said McGinnis suffered a broken arm as a result of the altercation.. Kire1975 (talk) 19:46, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

And the source being used says "There are unconfirmed reports that the man's hand or part of his arm were broken as police tried to remove him...." There is no confirmation that he broke his hand or arm, and we certainly shouldn't be saying so in wiki voice. This is why WP:NOTNEWS is important--this is an emerging story with unconfirmed details. There is WP:NODEADLINE and we shouldn't be hastily adding things to this article as information is emerging. Marquardtika (talk) 16:49, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

I edited the passage about the altercation in a way more akin to #14262's prose, because I thought the prose already there was substantially non-neutral. Here is the previous passage:

On March 4, 2026, Sheehy picked up and pushed Brian McGinnis, a Marine Corps veteran, antiwar protester, and the Green Party nominee for the 2026 United States Senate election in North Carolina, against a door, while McGinnis was being detained during a Senate Armed Services Subcommittee meeting. McGinnis suffered a broken arm as a result of the altercation.

I'll break down what I believe is wrong here.

1. "Sheehy picked up and pushed Brian McGinnis... against a door": The passage does not explain why Sheehy was so physical with McGinnis. Did Sheehy just do that "because he can"? Is Sheehy a vacuously violent brute who tends to pick up and push people against doors twice a week? It does not offer prevailing context for why Sheehy would act like that toward McGinnis, nor does it detail adequately what situation was unfolding which caused Sheehy to want to intervene.
2. "McGinnis, a Marine Corps veteran, antiwar protester, and the Green Party nominee for the 2026 United States Senate election in North Carolina...": While this passage technically is true, paired with a softening tone, it appears to give a succession of attributes to McGinnis which seek to humanize him and soften the reader into feeling sympathy for him (while, of course, being absent on other relevant details about his behavior there). It tries to influence the reader into thinking "why would Senator Sheehy do such a thing to, of all people, a Marine Corps veteran?" (Which some people, including at least one loud in-person witness, will think anyways.) You can refer to McGinnis as both an "antiwar protester" and a "guy yelling anti-Israel talking points at a captive public gathering"; both would be true, but would have their own very significant biases behind them. But calling him an "antiwar protester" does an extremely poor job of conveying what McGinnis was even doing at the Subcommittee meeting, only serving to imply in the vaguest possible way why McGinnis was there at all without even arriving at the fact that he was performing a vocal protest at the meeting. Worth noting is that the opposite extreme of dehumanizing or demonizing McGinnis clearly doesn't suffice either.
3. "...McGinnis was being detained during a... meeting." This prose only uses the passing tone that McGinnis was "being detained". But who or what is detaining him? ICE? Extraterrestrials? David Hasselhoff? Sketchy-looking fellas who promise free candy? It not only fails to establish that Capitol Police were detaining him for acting disruptively - then physically handled him when he refused to leave appropriately - but also fails to even mention or allude to any Capitol police involvement in the situation at all!
4. "McGinnis suffered a broken arm as a result of the altercation." Verification issues aside on McGinnis being injured, to reference #3's lack of establishing Capitol Police's presence in containing and removing McGinnis, this prose via omission intends to make the reader conclude that Sheehy directly injured McGinnis, when the reality is far more complicated than that. McGinnis's injuries were the result of a series of events. To be as succinct as possible: McGinnis disrupted the occasion and did not leave on his own; then received the physical force of up to four men including that of Senator Sheehy; and grabbed onto the room's features in an attempt to resist being dragged away, getting his hand wedged between a door and its frame adjacent to him. Based on this, no one person broke his arm, and it can instead be stated that his arm would not have been broken without McGinnis himself clinging onto a doorframe that its door subsequently shut on while the physical altercation was happening.

So that covers my take as to why the old phrasing was not appropriate for Wikipedia. It vilifies Sheehy and lionizes McGinnis without giving the relevant incident much needed context. Therefore, Sheehy did not "attack" McGinnis as claimed way above, and the nugget where he told a bystander to "go f**k yourself" presently stands as a tabloid-like insinuation and possible defamation of Sheehy. I also do not believe that it should be in the "Personal life" section, since Sheehy was at the interrupted event in his capacity as a U.S. Senator (and sort-of as a veteran, too). He was not there in his capacities as, say, a husband or a father or an aircraft pilot. Therefore, perhaps the altercation section should be moved to the "Committee assignments" section?

But for what it's worth, I believe the altercation is very adequately covered on the Brian McGinnis article, and that the proposed rewrite above is much more successful at being neutral. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 08:37, 7 March 2026 (UTC)

Opening preamble

It seems clunky and odd to list all of his former occupations, including cattle rancher and pilot, in the opening paragraph. This information is not really germane and would likely be best served under “early career” or something similar. I think Ossof’s page is a great template. No one is clicking on this article because they know of the cattle rancher Tim Sheehy. It reads much more like an ad campaign to be completely honest. ~2026-14802-24 (talk) 16:14, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

Makes sense. MrGerLib (talk) 04:34, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

Opening or lead paragraghs should be a brief synopsis of what is covered in article. What do suggest should be included? The fact he he the youngest AFTER, meaning is not the youngest Senator, is important, but his previous professions aren't? Why? Djflem (talk) 16:18, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

Including previous professions is fine. But do we need to include all of them? I guess it is not a big deal either way. But I wonder why we use "former" for Navy SEAL officer, but not for other previous jobs? MrGerLib (talk) 15:54, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Agreed. The first 4 paragraphs are also repetitive and the article suffers from organizational problems overall. Puddytang (talk) 19:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

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Ammunition Lawsuit

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2026 Plane Crash

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