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Latest comment: 1 year ago by 109.79.166.153 in topic Original research?

Cleanup

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I feel that this article should be rewritten. It contains three sections that are more or less talking about the same thing. I think they should be merged together. Stephenchou0722 22:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Editions

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I own the Doubleday Edition which is pictured on the 'The Stars, Like Dust' page (as of 7 Jul 2009). The verso reads:

COPYRIGHT, 1950, 1951, BY WORLD EDITIONS INC.

COPYRIGHT, 1951, BY ISAAC ASIMOV.


So, this would suggest two changes to the TSLD page: 1) the book was first published in 1950, not 1951 as indicated in the text; 2) the Doubleday Edition is not the First Edition. Both of these suggested changes are unless the "WORLD EDITIONS INC." publication was a serialized publication in a magazine-- if this is true, the text can stand as at present.SaturnCat (talk) 22:47, 7 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Aratap

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The article does not mention the novel's most interesting feature -- the inversion of the villain and hero. The Tyrann official Aratap, the ostensible villain, is a likeable and complex character, who dislikes violence and almost succeeds in thwarting the dull, sterotypical "hero" Biron by diplomacy and superior intelligence. CharlesTheBold 05:31, 21 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Series box

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Here is how to do the series box using the sucession templates:

-- Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

There is also Template:AsimovStory. Or is that outdated? ScouterSig 18:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Comma in title?

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My copy (Grafton) does not have a comma in the title. Is this something that was changed from the original? Is it worth mentioning in the article? RoscoHead (talk) 11:40, 9 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Addition of ISBN from Wikidata

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Please note that this article's infobox is retrieving an ISBN from Wikidata currently. This is the result of a change made to {{Infobox book}} as a result of this RfC. It would be appreciated if an editor took some time to review this ISBN to ensure it is appropriate for the infobox. If it is not, you could consider either correcting the ISBN on Wikidata (preferred) or introducing a blank ISBN parameter in the infobox to block the retrieval from Wikidata. If you do review the ISBN, please respond here so other editors don't duplicate your work. This is an automated message to address concerns that this change did not show up on watchlists. ~ RobTalk 01:26, 15 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Original research?

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“The ruler of Tyrann in the story is called the "Khan," suggesting that Asimov took the Mongol dominion over the Russian principalities as a model, much as he used the declining Roman Empire for his Foundation series. (See the "Golden Horde" for the real-world history that Asimov drew upon and adapted.)” Source? --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 14:45, 10 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

It's a fairly obvious observation, and Wikipedia used to allow it. (The edit adding it was made in 2006 where the editor confidently asserted that it "obviously" (diff) referenced the Golden Horde, as Foundation had referenced the Roman Empire, and at some later point an editor changed it from "obviously" to "suggesting" replacing bold assertion with speculation, which isn't allowed either.) It needs to be better sourced or eventually removed. I take issue with it for a different reason, the WP:LEAD section is supposed to key points from the article body. It isn't mentioned in the article body and even it was, it would be be a key point. It is not clear that the Mongol empire in general or the Golden Horde specifically had any real bearing on the story itself beyond the character title. -- 109.79.166.153 (talk) 21:49, 6 July 2025 (UTC)Reply