Talk:The Ruts

Great band

Jah War is fantastic and largely unknown. Unfortunately, though, this article is written in a rather breathless "fan-boy" manner and could do with a little restraint.

See the The Crack article. Ian Dunster 12:28, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

additional single

Well, I know practically nothing about the band so can't add anything except -- Didn't they also put out a 45 "Sit on my Face, Stevie Nicks"? I never found the thing, unfortunately, so don't have a copy. But I clearly remember the thing, unless I'm attaching it to the wrong band. I'll have to check my old British catalogues . . . "one of these days". Hmm, which am I gonna do first: dig through the piles of stuff in my basement, read more rock pages on Wikipedia, or listen to music? Aw, you know me too well. IanHistor 14:02, 30 June 2006 (UTC) Oops, no, I was thinking of the Rotters. 'Sorry. IanHistor 02:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Ruts DC

I read somewhere that Da Capo means without the head, or something similar91.107.116.5 (talk) 00:44, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

The Collins English Dictionary states; Music: to be repeated (in whole or part) from the beginning. [C18:from Italian, literally: from the head]. Hope this helps,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:28, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

DC is also an accepted abbreviation in medical terminology for "discontinue". - Steve3849 ^talk 23:38, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Malcolm Owen.

I know the lead singer, Malcolm Owen died quite young.

Something confirmed by this article.

I could never figure out how to do it, but is it possible to start a biography of the man, so it can be linked to this page?

Cuddy2977 (talk) 10:40, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Surprised to find there is no article for Malcolm Owen. He would appear to be notable per WP:BAND: member of a notable band, writer of some well regarded songs, and died young. Was there once an article that has since been deleted, or are we just waiting for someone to write one? 87.112.211.141 (talk) 19:46, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Potential copying?

I haven't checked the whole article, but it looks like several parts of it (namely the first paragraph in the body that mentions "Babylon's Burning") were copied word-for-word from The Ruts' biography on their now-defunct website. Much of the text in that paragraph is identical to text on that site. I'll make a few edits accordingly (as I don't have time to fully comb through it right now), but I did at least want to point that out.

The Ruts website: https://web.archive.org/web/20160305062100/http://www.theruts.co.uk/?page_id=124

Afddiary (talk) 14:33, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

If the website is "defunct", what happens to the copyright? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:56, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

I'm honestly not sure. I'd assume that it would be a safe bet to ensure that there was as little copying as possible, even if the text is copied directly from defunct websites/sources. I guess on a moral level, it would be the same as copying text from an obscure offline book with a niche audience; hardly anyone is likely to find or care to read the original text, but it still shouldn't be copied.

I also think the wording on the original page was a little awkward at times, and at least last time I checked, there appeared to be some areas where some things that were copied over from The Ruts' website had poor formatting, smart quotes, etc. – so I think it's a good decision to reorganize it into completely original wording anyway. Afddiary (talk) 19:42, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

No objections. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:01, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

If the copied text does constitute a violation of copyright, it might be wise to request Wikipedia:Revision deletion. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:01, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

I've gone through the article and made extensive edits, including finding new sources, as the article was formerly leaning strongly on the allegedly plagiarized text from their official website's bio, plus the AllMusic bio (which was not plagiarized as far as I could tell); I'm pretty sure I've eliminated all of the potentially plagiarized text (or at least, like, 95-98% of it) and made the article slightly less reliant on a single source... **hopefully** :)

I'll submit a request there. Thank you so much for the link! Afddiary (talk) 20:28, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Ok cheers. You just have to add Template:Copyvio-revdel. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:27, 18 April 2025 (UTC)