Talk:The Rani

GA review

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Nominator: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 01:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk · contribs) 19:50, 6 December 2025 (UTC)

Hey, I will review this within the next week :) DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 19:50, 6 December 2025 (UTC)

@DaniloDaysOfOurLives just double checking on the status of this. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 22:07, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, I have been struggling mentally. I will do it in the next few days DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 22:27, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

@DaniloDaysOfOurLives no worries at all! Take as much time as you need for yourself :) Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:51, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Hey, thank you so much for being patient with my delay due to personal issues. I have reviewed this and you should be very proud as this article is very good! I can't see any major sourcing issues and Earwig does not show any major copyright violations. I have done some small edits. Here are my comments:

Lead:

1. "The Rani was initially created due to John Nathan-Turner, a producer on the show, as a result of wanting another Time Lord antagonist on the show" - This needs rewording
2. "naming her the Rani after the Sanskrit word for "queen"" - In the prose, it says it is the Hindu word, so it needs to be fixed

• From what it says on Rani, it seems to be both, and another source later in the article describes it as Sanskrit. I'm admittedly unfamiliar with this though and may be using the wrong wording, so if I still need to change this let me know. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

1. Could you please briefly expand the second paragraph with development/storyline info?

• Let me know if this expansion is good. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

It is great! DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 05:48, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

Appearances:

1. Could you please briefly explain what "Gallifrey" is?
2. Are there any examples of her inhumane experiments that could be included?
3. "heightened their awareness" - Could you please clarify this? "Awareness" of what?

• No idea. The source just says "The Rani has altered the metabolism of Miasimia Goria's populace to heighten their awareness, but in the process has inadvertently lowered their ability to sleep," and I can't find anything clarifying this further. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

1. "which she intends to use to make the calculations necessary to turn Lakertya into a Time Manipulator that would allow her to manipulate evolution on a cosmic scale" - Is it explained why she wants to do this?
2. Could you please give an example or two of what the fourth-wall breaking abilities are?
3. Could you please clarify and/or link "Egyptians" (Is it Ancient Egyptians)?
4. Can you please link or clarify who "Koturian nobleman" are?
5. "but is foiled by the Doctor and Peri" - Is this Peri Brown? If so, can you please link her?
6. "Another incarnation of the Rani appears in two subsequent audio dramas released in the 2010s" - Is there any information on these?

• Only in primary sources, which I'm trying to only use when info isn't readily available in secondary sources. I can still add them if wanted, though. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

Conception and development:

1. "Producer John Nathan-Turner wanted to bring in a new Time Lord antagonist alongside pre-existing antagonist the Master" - Could you please clarify whether the Master is an antagonist as the sentence is a bit ambiguous?

• It says he is a "pre-existing antagonist" in the sentence as is, so I am not sure how to clarify that further. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

1. Can you please clarify how the crew treated her differently?

• No idea, since I can't access her book at all. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

1. "for making "being an 'older woman' acceptable" in television and film" - I love this info but could you please explain how this links to the character? Is the Rani meant to be old?

• Removed it, unfortunately, since I misread while doing my edits and took it as her saying O'Mara's performance did it, when it was in fact the other way around. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

1. "made up as an old crone" - Could you please rephrase this? Also, was the Rani in disguise?
2. Could you please briefly state who Nathan-Turner and Robert Holmes are? Are they writers/producers of the show?

• Nathan-Turner is clarified in the first paragraph of her development section. I've clarified Holmes. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

1. "The Rani later appeared as the villain" - Since she appears again (and is always a villain), I think this should be rephrased
2. Could you please link "Ohila"?

• She does not have a redirect as of now, unfortunately. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

1. "Producer David Richardson" - Can you please clarify if he is producer of Doctor Who or the BF production?
2. "O'Mara contacted them wanting to reprise a role" - I think it should be "the role". Also, can you please clarify who "them" is referring to?
3. "told them that she wanted the production to continue with a new incarnation of the character" - Is "she" referring to the manager or O'Mara herself (if she said that before her death)?
4. "Davies considered making her role be fulfilled by an original character" - What does this mean?

• I've rephrased this a bit but I'm not sure how to clarify further. "Original character" means what it says on the tin, and I'm admittedly unsure on how to clarify that more. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

1. "her costume additionally included callbacks to costumes previously worn by O'Mara" - Could you please clarify what "callbacks" is for readers unfamiliar with that term?

Reception and analysis:

1. "Kate O'Mara's performance in the Rani in both serials she portrayed the character has been the subject of praise" - Could you briefly please expand this?

• Reworded but admittedly unsure if this is good; let me know if this still needs tweaking. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

1. "was a ground-breaking character for the time" - I think this needs rewording

• How so? Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

1. "several negative stereotypes regarding women and women in science" - Could you please give 2 or so examples?
2. Can you please reword or clarify "catch-all guess"?
3. What is meant by fan service?
4. "Critics similarly criticised her role and character in the subsequent episode" - Could you please briefly expand on this?

• Cut this one, the sources don't really focus on her as much as I remembered; most big commentary seems to be focused on Wish World. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

Other:

1. Could you please archive the remaining links?

• Will try to do this soon. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

1. I think pictures of the actresses would be good to use in the article, particularly in the Revived Era and Reception sections (e.g. a picture of O'Mara with the caption "O'Mara received praise for her portrayal of the Rani"?)

• I don't know why I was under the impression O'Mara's image was fair use, but it isn't. I've added an image of her in development alongside images of Punjabi and Dobson's incarnations later in the section. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

1. Is there any information with her familiarity with the similarly-named character in The Sarah Jane Adventures?

• There weren't any major comparisons from what I could find during my search. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

Once these have been addressed I will do a source spotcheck and pass the article. Please let me know if you need any help and/or if there is anything I can do to help! :) Take your time of course :) DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 08:51, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

• @DaniloDaysOfOurLives: bar a few clarifications on word quibbles above, I've addressed your comments. Any I haven't responded to I have addressed in the article without any major further comment, so let me know if that is all good. Thank you for the review and let me know if there's anything I missed in the above comments!

For the record, I will be gone over New Year's, so if there are any major edits, it will likely take me a few days to get back to them, so feel free to take your time with responding to anything if need be. On that note, Happy New Years! Thank you again for the thorough review and for all of your reviews in the past year. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 05:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

Hey @Pokelego999:, thank you so much for the changes. I have spotchecked Sources #15, #18, #29, #34, #40, #52 and #57. I have noticed that a couple of sources don't directly correlate to what is written (e.g. Source 57 does not directly say that the Rani is too similar to the master and Source 15 does not directly say it is O'Mara's first appearance). I have fixed these but it may be worth having a check through the sources to see if everything lines up. However, these are relatively minor so I will still pass this. I hope you have a lovely new year and enjoy your time off! And your welcome for your the reviews :) Hopefully we will work together again in 2026! DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 06:21, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

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