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Latest comment: 8 months ago by AirshipJungleman29 in topic Did you know nomination
Good articleThe New Sound has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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October 20, 2025Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on December 3, 2025.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Geordie Greep announced his debut solo album just ten days after revealing that his band was on an indefinite hiatus?

GA review

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This review is transcluded from Talk:The New Sound/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Engineeringest (talk · contribs) 17:34, 11 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: Monkeysmashingkeyboards (talk · contribs) 19:59, 15 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Issues

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  • Large portions of the article are just quotes from interviews of Greep.
  • The album was recorded in London and São Paulo between September 2023 and April 2024.
    This seems a bit conflicted - the background section just moments later says Greep recorded the album in London and São Paulo between September 2023 and March 2024. Make this clearer - The last overdubs were recorded in April 2024 should be made more clearer.
    • This should be resolved now, the March end date was sourced to a reference that didn't mention dates at all, and the album liner notes demonstrate that the latest date referenced is April 2024, for overdubs at New Sound Studios. Engineeringest (talk) 15:59, 18 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
  • Murphy, Liam (14 October 2014). "Clash Magazine Review". Clash. Archived from the original on 14 December 2024. Retrieved 18 October 2024. What? This album was released in 2024, so how is it possible for a review of this album be published in 2014?
  • The lead section doesn't summarize the article completely - skimping out on critical acclaim, and no mention of lyrical and musical style.
  • "Background" really just is another Recording section - maybe add some information about his tenure as the black midi frontman, and merge the current text with Recording?
  • The Music/Lyrics section is... weird.
    • The New Sound is primarily a progressive rock and jazz-rock album,[1] but also draws heavy inspiration from Brazilian music} - "primarily" is redundant.
    • The album's opening track "Blues" is primarily a collaboration between Greep, Evans, and Black Midi drummer Morgan Simpson, with Greep noting: "It's one of the most impromptu in terms of the arrangement. That song was me and Morgan and Shank. I had the idea, but I wanted to keep it as loose as possible. The recording is the only time we played the song in full. It's all about the interaction between the drums and the vocal. I wanted to do something like one of my favorite singers, this French singer Léo Ferré. He has this rhetorical writing, starting with a theme and going down and down until you get to this pessimistic, nihilistic, end of the universe kind of thing."[12]
      The album's closing track is a cover of the 1940's song, "If You Are But a Dream", with Greep noting: "It's an old tune that Frank Sinatra did in the '40s. When I first heard it, I was like, "Why is this song not more famous?" It's a brilliant tune, really unusual. It's based on this Anton Rubinstein thing from the early 20th century. I've been really interested in this thing of good lyrics — not when the lyrics are, like, the best lyrics of all time, but when the music, the lyrics, and the melody all come together and synthesize a weird new feeling. [...] I wanted to do a version of that with a Salvation Army brass band vibe, like Tom Waits or something."[10]
      - just 2 long quotes from interviews, and not necessary IMO. If a reader wants to learn more about the album just let them read the interviews - e.g. cut portions of the quote, or paraphrase it.
    • The storytelling on The New Sound is frequently told from the point of view of characters Greep wrote, inspired by men that he met out drinking at clubs and the stories that they would tell him. - Not exactly concise. The first sentence is a big nothing burger - same meaning as "The characters on this album are written by Greep." Could be cut, or made shorter.
    • Regarding the album's second single and opening track "Blues", Greep said, "I wanted to do a song about when you think you're the shit, and you have this feeling when you're walking down the street, and you can imagine it's a movie. Like, what a wanker! It's just a load of funny lines strung together, really, with the theme of like 18-year-old pretentiousness."[19] - Readers already know what "Blues" is. (The album's opening track "Blues" is primarily a collaboration between...), so we don't need to introduce it twice.
      • Will work on these issues throughout the weekend and beyond. Just wanted to give an update for now, as I've got more time to start addressing them. Engineeringest (talk) 15:59, 18 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
        • I've rewritten the Music and Lyrics section, and feedback on that would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully the most glaring issues have been resolved and there's a little more clarification for the reader. If that's the case, the only outstanding issues left would be the lead section and Background. Engineeringest (talk) 23:12, 20 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:59, 26 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

    • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Engineeringest (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Engineeringest (talk) 02:03, 21 October 2025 (UTC).Reply