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Latest comment: 2 months ago by Namelessposter in topic Sale price of Benetton to Renault

"As of" statements

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@DH85868993: Is it possible to automate the "as of" statements by adding the totals for the various teams and subtracting the integer for pre-Enstone Renault? Namelessposter (talk) 15:38, 24 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Namelessposter: It should be. I'll aim to do it within the next 24 hours. DH85868993 (talk) 20:30, 24 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
That's very kind of you - no rush though. I just thought automation might make it easier on you when you go through your updates. Namelessposter (talk) 20:39, 24 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
 Done It will. Thanks for the prompt. Interestingly, it highlighted that the existing number of Grands Prix (782) was incorrect - it should have been 777. DH85868993 (talk) 10:06, 25 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
@HumanBodyPiloter5: Hi there. As the guy who requested automation in the first place (and the guy who's written much of the article, not that that means I own it), I'm curious why you reverted @DH85868993's edit automating the total Enstone statistics. You mentioned that it's not like Alpine are winning a dozen races every year, but while that's true, DH85868993 has been manually updating this specific page after every race, regardless of whether Alpine wins. There's already a long list of routine post-race updates and the more we can automate that list, the better. Namelessposter (talk) 15:11, 25 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Because automating the figure for the combined race win total caused inconsistencies with the formatting and for that specific figure wasn't really necessary given the total has only changed once in the past twelve years. Having it update the total number of races automatically is far more useful and doesn't cause formatting issues. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 15:53, 25 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Could you be a little more specific about the formatting? If it’s about writing out the number “fifty”, I’d imagine there is a way for the automation to account for that, although I do note that MOS:NUM doesn’t require us to write it out, it gives us a choice to do so. Namelessposter (talk) 16:04, 25 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
The article was originally written with it written out, and writing it out makes it very clear that the intention is to say "fifty", whereas "50" could easily be a typo for "40", "59", or "60", which to my mind makes it a preferable way of displaying smaller numbers (obviously I'm not going to argue that we should spell out "seven-thousand-four-hundred-and-thirty-two" or something). Per MOS:STYLERET the original style should be kept. If you're able to find a way that automates this while retaining the original style then feel free to go ahead, however I'm still not convinced of the necessity of automating this specific statistic when the figure has only changed once since 2013, and I can't see that as being a sufficient reason to go against MOS:STYLERET. If automating the figure for total number of races, which changes dozens of times per year, caused stylistic inconsistencies then that would be quite a reasonable cause for changing the overall style of the article. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 17:56, 25 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
I've re-automated the number of wins, but retained the style "fifty" using {{numbertoword}}. DH85868993 (talk) 19:42, 25 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Sale price of Benetton to Renault

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Currently the sale price is given as $120,000,000 USD based upon an American source. Given this is a French company purchasing a British subsidiary from an Italian company, it seems more plausible that the transaction would have been made in euros or pounds sterling (or maybe in francs or lira, I don't know exactly how the euro transition would have worked for transactions like this at the time). Looking for sources also reveals inconsistencies in the prices given. The Independent says "$120m (£78m)", The Irish Times says "£76 million", and the BBC says "almost £80m". This could do with some clarification. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 17:12, 1 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

According to the fxtop.com currency converter, £80m was $126m on March 16, 2000, so all the figures quoted seem generally correct. You're more than welcome to revise the article to express the figure in sterling, euros, etc. I don't feel strongly about it. Namelessposter (talk) 17:29, 3 May 2026 (UTC)Reply