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Infobox collage
[edit]User:LeontinaVarlamonva, the current collage has three panoramic images, which very difficult to make out given the size of the infobox, and in any case they share many of the same subjects. The template recommends using a skyline alongside notable landmarks, which is being adopted by an increasing amount of major cities articles as you may have noticed. As it stands I do not believe the collage is a fair reflection of the article or indeed the kind of city Tbilisi is. Would like your opinion on this. Morningstar1814 (talk) 10:01, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
- Your second version is much better so I think that can be kept. I just made one caption shorter so that it fits nicer in new formatting you made.--LeontinaVarlamonva (talk) 19:39, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the response but it's not quite addressing the core issue here. I don't think using multiple wide shots next to each other is either easy on the eyes or adding that much to the lede. Would we not be better off having a nice skyline picture (the first one we have is pretty good) and a selection of the city's most notable sights in close-up, which would immediately tell one more about the city? Instead of being far in the distance (in a 300px image no less) perhaps Sameba deserves the same treatment as the Brandenburg Gate in the Berlin collage or the Notre-Dame in the Paris collage. If the concern is there might be too many images we could be more selective, and I don't think these buildings already having pictures further in the article (which most readers will not actually get to) is that much of an issue. Morningstar1814 (talk) 04:11, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- I think larger views of Tbilisi from different angles give much better feel of the city than individual buildings. Berlin and Paris both very spread out and mostly flat, so I can see better argument there for using more specific sites/buildings. --LeontinaVarlamonva (talk) 09:17, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the response but it's not quite addressing the core issue here. I don't think using multiple wide shots next to each other is either easy on the eyes or adding that much to the lede. Would we not be better off having a nice skyline picture (the first one we have is pretty good) and a selection of the city's most notable sights in close-up, which would immediately tell one more about the city? Instead of being far in the distance (in a 300px image no less) perhaps Sameba deserves the same treatment as the Brandenburg Gate in the Berlin collage or the Notre-Dame in the Paris collage. If the concern is there might be too many images we could be more selective, and I don't think these buildings already having pictures further in the article (which most readers will not actually get to) is that much of an issue. Morningstar1814 (talk) 04:11, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
Proposed Cleanup and Enhancements for Tbilisi Article (Demographics, Culture, Transport, Others)
[edit]Hello everyone, I am proposing a major cleanup and enhancement of several sections of the Tbilisi article, mainly focused on: Demographics Religion Sports Culture (Architecture, Art, Performing Arts) Tourism (Main Sights, Nightlife) Economy Transport
(buses, metro, rail, air, cycling, minibuses, tram history, etc.)
The goals of the edit are: Update outdated statistics, formatting, and citations (especially 2022–2023 data). Reorganize sections for better readability and logical flow, following standard Wikipedia city article structure. Modernize phrasing to avoid old Soviet-centric descriptions while keeping historical balance. Preserve important historical content (no removals from History, Climate, or other critical sections). Align with English Wikipedia Manual of Style (MOS) standards, especially for clarity, punctuation, and neutrality. Correct minor translation or English phrasing issues where Georgian context was mistranslated or outdated. Maintain all reliable references, adding archive links where appropriate. Key clarifications: No deletions were made to major history, foundation, or climate parts — those are kept intact. Demographics now better reflect the modern ethnic and linguistic structure of Tbilisi using reliable 2014 and 2022–2023 census/statistics. Transport and Tourism sections were expanded to reflect major infrastructural changes (e.g., new metro upgrades, bus reorganizations, increased bike infrastructure, green airports). Culture (especially Architecture and Nightlife) was updated to reflect Tbilisi’s growing international image. Sources used: Georgian National Statistics Office (GeoStat) Caucasian Calendar Georgian news agencies (Agenda.ge, Euronews Georgia) UNESCO, FIBA, and other official international reports Archived reliable sources for historic data (e.g., 1897, 1916 censuses) English-language and Georgian-language official government pages I am posting this message to ensure full transparency before/after editing, in case other contributors wish to review or suggest further improvements. I am happy to collaborate if other editors wish to refine these sections even further. Thank you for your time and consideration.
— DavidIosava (talk) 14:00, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
Probable AI generated text
[edit]Hi -- I'm adding this tag in regard to the edits mentioned above by DavidIosava, as they contain many signs of AI use (which don't seem to be disclosed, despite the "full transparency"). They need substantial review for hallucinations, tone, etc.; many of the most obvious issues still remain on the page. Gnomingstuff (talk) 19:24, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
- I looked through and removed some content that's not really encyclopedia material and was generic/unreferenced information (part of it here before but others added or reworded significantly). Rest was mostly structure/format change. Everything else seems ok to me. --LeontinaVarlamonva (talk) 02:11, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Re-added the tag, the issues are still there Gnomingstuff (talk) 18:40, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
- After article was initially flagged, I spent lot of time reviewing/removing problem AI content created by DavidIosava to make sure what remained was okay. So what more is problem? It's not enough to say "issues" are still there without being specific. Otherwise many articles will remain forever "marked" like this because nobody knows what more to fix. Specific problems need to be identified.--LeontinaVarlamonva (talk) 01:20, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Re-added the tag, the issues are still there Gnomingstuff (talk) 18:40, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
Suggestion to add external link for Tbilisi day trip information
[edit]Hi all,
I would like to suggest adding the following external link to the "External links" section of the Tbilisi article:
- [Day trip from Tbilisi to Gremi – Discover Georgia's hidden gems](https://carsandrooms.ge/day-trip-from-tbilisi-to-gremi-discover-georgias-hidden-gems/)
Reasons for proposal: - This link provides information about day trips from Tbilisi to lesser-known historical sites, which adds cultural and tourist context for readers. - It may benefit travelers seeking alternatives to the typical tourist routes. - As far as I can tell, there are no similar links currently in the external links section.
I am aware that Wikipedia is strict with links to business and tourist services, so I would like community feedback on whether this link is sufficiently informative and not purely promotional.
Thanks for your attention! 87.218.13.0 (talk) 15:26, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
T_max_year = 40.5 degrees centigrade inconsistent with T_max_July =42.0 degrees centigrade
[edit]The highest temperature for the whole year is indicated as 40.5 degrees centigrade. The highest temperature for July is indicated as 42.0 degrees centigrade. Those two values are inconsistent with each other. If the 42.0 value for July is correct and if no other month has seen a temperature higher than 42.0, the highest temperature for the year should equal 42.0.Redav (talk) 19:23, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
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