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A fact from Taiwan.md appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 31 May 2026 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 23:36, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
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- ... that Taiwan.md aimed to build an open knowledge base about Taiwan?
- Source: 從台積電到早餐店阿姨 Taiwan.md知識庫AI時代下說台灣故事 (新媒體藝術家吳哲宇為此打造台灣知識庫Taiwan.md), 怎麼向外國人介紹台灣?人人都能在 Taiwan.md 把「日常的不可思議」寫給世界看(Taiwan.md 的核心定位是一個由社群共同書寫的台灣知識庫。), Taiwan.md知識庫讓世界認識台灣 從半導體產業到早餐店阿姨都收錄(根據Taiwan.md網站介紹,這座知識庫定位為台灣的數位人類學博物館,是文化的活化石,也是正在發生的歷史紀錄。)
- ALT1: ... that Taiwan.md was built within 24 hours by AI agents? Source: 策展島嶼的深度敘事 (接下來的二十四小時,是我今年最瘋狂的一次衝刺。我和 AI Agent 團隊並肩作戰)
- ALT2: ... that Taiwan.md tried to answer "What is Taiwan"? Source: 怎麼向外國人介紹台灣?人人都能在 Taiwan.md 把「日常的不可思議」寫給世界看 (它的目標不只是回答人類的提問,更是在未來由 AI 回答「台灣是什麼」時,提供一個來自在地社群的版本。), 把台灣開源!新媒體藝術家推taiwan.md 讓世界讀懂台灣, 把台灣開源!taiwan.md:AI 回答的時代,讓國家用 README 的方式介紹自己
- ALT3: ... that Taiwan.md was described as "README of Taiwan"? Source: 把台灣開源!taiwan.md:AI 回答的時代,讓國家用 README 的方式介紹自己 (如果 README.md 是每個專案的入口,那麼 taiwan.md 想做的,或許就是讓台灣第一次擁有一份真正像樣、而且可以持續更新的 README。這不只是技術梗,也不只是創意命名,而是一種屬於這個時代的國家自我介紹方式。)
- ALT4: ... that you can really learn about Taiwan from Taiwan.md? Source: 策展島嶼的深度敘事 -- 上報 (2024 年春天,威尼斯雙年展的開幕酒會上,一位義大利策展人端著紅酒走過來,問了我一個簡單的問題:「Where can I learn about Taiwan? Like, really learn?」), 怎麼向外國人介紹台灣?人人都能在 Taiwan.md 把「日常的不可思議」寫給世界看 (Taiwan.md 由新媒體藝術家、Monoame 創辦人吳哲宇發起,他回憶,2024 年春天在威尼斯雙年展開幕酒會上,一位義大利策展人曾問他:「Where can I learn about Taiwan? Like, really learn?」這個問題讓他當場語塞。即便能口述夜市文化、健保制度或地理環境等各種故事,卻始終無法提供一個完整、可供他人自行理解台灣的入口。)
- ALT5: ... that Taiwan.md was inspired by a question of, "Where can I learn about Taiwan? Like, really learn"? Source: 策展島嶼的深度敘事 -- 上報, 怎麼向外國人介紹台灣?人人都能在 Taiwan.md 把「日常的不可思議」寫給世界看
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Honestly, I am bad at DYK hooks, so I have sent lots of DYK hooks, but I still have no confidence that there's any hook that can ever be considered interesting.
Saimmx (talk) 09:17, 25 March 2026 (UTC).
- agree,but please include the English title of the source. 菜國人 (talk) 03:21, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
- Hello, @菜國人: Good to see you here, but for your reference, enwiki uses a very different way to promote DYK compared to zhwiki - editors do not vote the article here. Instead, they will review the whole article to see if the article, the image, and the hook pass certain criteria. If you want to review Taiwan.md, follow Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewer instructions here and use Template:DYK checklist to review the article, and leave your comment in the DYK page. Saimmx (talk) 07:35, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
- I take, will review in the next 24 hours. I'm not a fan of any of the hooks for various reasons, but a combination of the first two hooks - ALT6: ... that a Taiwanese open knowledge base was built in 24 hours by AI agents? - would work.--Launchballer 03:23, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Saimmx: Long enough, new enough. QPQ not needed and Earwig's clean. No reason why either would deserve a maintenance template. ALT1/6 says that the site was built in 24 hours but the article says that an initial structure was built in 24 hours, and this isn't quite the same thing (or anywhere near as interesting in my view). ALT7 ... that a Taiwanese open knowledge base uses the Moldovan Internet country code top-level domain .md? is certainly unusual, but I'd like to see if you have any suggestions before I call for another reviewer.--Launchballer 18:36, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I am not good at finding good hooks, so I won't comment on the hooks you find. They may be interesting to other reviewers as well. But as a developer, the ".md" domain certainly refers to Markdown instead of Moldova if you ask me (the same way we believe the .io domain refers to input/output instead of the British Indian Ocean Territory). Others may not feel the same way, though.
- If you wonder, the DYK hook on Chinese Wikipedia is: "
哪個以Markdown格式建構的台灣開源知識庫由新媒體藝術家吳哲宇於2026年3月發起?
" - Translation: Which Taiwanese open knowledge base is built with Markdown by Wu Che Yu, a new media artist? - Based on your view of my hooks, you may find the hook is not interesting, either. --Saimmx (talk) 19:02, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
I don't know if zh's DYK assesses interestingness, but my reaction to that hook would be 'it's going to have been built with something and by someone, and 'new' is too nebulous to be useful'. (The former is similar to why I'm not keen on ALTs 2, 4, and 5 - providing information isn't an unusual aspect of something like this. ALT3 requires knowledge of what a README is, which doesn't strike me as common knowledge.) "Refers to" isn't quite the same thing as "comes from", but I'll let someone else adjudicate on ALT7.--Launchballer 19:18, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
- No opinion on the article, but ALT7 isn't exactly unheard of since it's quite common for websites to use the top-level domain for other countries (such as Tuvalu's .tv). I could live with it if there were no other options, but the others are either weak or have been challenged, so we probably need to see other options first before we revisit ALT7. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:18, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- You may want to take a look at the website's about page. I have considered the website's quick attention from outsiders, or its attempt to build an AI-friendly knowledge base, but I don't know. --Saimmx (talk) 18:01, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- It's a bit less obvious why you might pick a .md domain than a .tv domain, no?--Launchballer 04:22, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
- The answer to "why they choose .md domain" requires readers to understand the idea of README (of software development) and Markdown. I have known these for a long time, so it is obvious to me (in short, "no" for me about your question), but it looks like it's not the case for others, based on your previous replies. I will therefore explain README.md the background for a little bit -
- In software projects, README.md describes what the project is, how to use it, and how to contribute to it (i.e. write computer programs and submit them to the maintainer). It is a very important document in a software project because we need to know what the software is. In "Taiwan.md", the maintainer uses the idea of "README.md" and compares Taiwan to a software project - how do we know Taiwan? Where's the document for it? The project aimed to become a "README.md of Taiwan."
- I am not sure if you understand this, but maybe we can dive into it, yes. --Saimmx (talk) 13:52, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
- It's a bit less obvious why you might pick a .md domain than a .tv domain, no?--Launchballer 04:22, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
- You may want to take a look at the website's about page. I have considered the website's quick attention from outsiders, or its attempt to build an AI-friendly knowledge base, but I don't know. --Saimmx (talk) 18:01, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- First, the term "new media artist" (新媒體藝術家) is a proper noun in the context, and should not be interpreted word-for-word.
- Second, I don't know about enwp's DYK assesses the interestingness of DYK hooks as well, and noticed a difference over "interesting hooks" between enwp and zhwp - In zhwp, I rarely heard people who assess a hook's interestingness (maybe there's someone who does, but I don't know). I, for example, care more about the quality of an article than a hook's interestingness (More like "No opinion on the hooks, but the article...").
- I am not sure what interested you. For me, "a website designed to introduce Taiwan to foreigners—and one that garners significant attention" is interesting enough, since the goal itself is unusual, maybe challenging enough. Perhaps media attention within eight hours of the website’s launch might interest you, but I would like to hear your thoughts before creating hooks, since I am unsure of personal preference. --Saimmx (talk) 18:01, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- No opinion on the article, but ALT7 isn't exactly unheard of since it's quite common for websites to use the top-level domain for other countries (such as Tuvalu's .tv). I could live with it if there were no other options, but the others are either weak or have been challenged, so we probably need to see other options first before we revisit ALT7. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:18, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Saimmx: Long enough, new enough. QPQ not needed and Earwig's clean. No reason why either would deserve a maintenance template. ALT1/6 says that the site was built in 24 hours but the article says that an initial structure was built in 24 hours, and this isn't quite the same thing (or anywhere near as interesting in my view). ALT7 ... that a Taiwanese open knowledge base uses the Moldovan Internet country code top-level domain .md? is certainly unusual, but I'd like to see if you have any suggestions before I call for another reviewer.--Launchballer 18:36, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
- I take, will review in the next 24 hours. I'm not a fan of any of the hooks for various reasons, but a combination of the first two hooks - ALT6: ... that a Taiwanese open knowledge base was built in 24 hours by AI agents? - would work.--Launchballer 03:23, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
Proposing revised hook:
- ALT6a: ... that AI agents built the initial structure of a Taiwanese open knowledge base in 24 hours?
- Pretty interesting hook, well done. I may have never considered such kinds of hook. --Saimmx (talk) 08:07, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
Approving ALT6a - passes DYKINT, in the article and reliably sourced. (I am relying on the earlier reviewer's review for other elements of DYKG and machine translation of the Chinese sources.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:23, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- Pretty interesting hook, well done. I may have never considered such kinds of hook. --Saimmx (talk) 08:07, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
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