Talk:TACL (programming language)

Requested move 12 March 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – Hilst [talk] 21:30, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

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TACL → TACL (programming language) – So, I recently created an article for the Transactions of the Association for Computational Linguistics, a journal whose name is commonly abbreviated TACL. It is not obvious why TACL, as a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, should refer to TACL the programming language and not the journal. The journal is relatively new, having been launched in 2013, but since then it has become an extremely popular and notable publication venue for computational linguists. A quick Google search for "TACL" reveals that the vast majority of websites on the first many pages of results refer to the journal, and only a tiny few to the programming language. Therefore, I move that this page be moved to TACL (programming language) and that the page TACL be made either:

1. a redirect to Transactions of the Association for Computational Linguistics (with the implication that the journal is now considered the primary topic), OR
2. a disambiguation page (essentially, move TACL (disambiguation) to TACL) (with the implication that there is no primary topic for this term).

What I can't support, however, based on the guidelines at WP:DPT, is keeping the programming language as the primary topic. It is a rarely used, antiquated language, and by any metric, usage of the term to refer to the journal has outstripped usage referring to the programming language. On balance, I think the case is stronger for (2), especially on the basis of the WP:DPT guidance that Initialisms and acronyms are often so ambiguous that it's less likely a primary topic can be determined in those cases. Brusquedandelion (talk) 13:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

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• Support moving the current article to 'TACL (programming language)' and moving the disambiguation page to 'TACL' (essentially, option 2 above). A DAB page is usually not necessary for WP:2DABS, but it seems that there is no primary topic here. Cnilep (talk) 03:14, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
• I think that the standard for a four letter abbreviation being a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT should be fairly high and i don't think the journal reaches it. I think disambiguating as suggested in nom would be fine; additionally it seems like there are other topics that could be added to the DAB per WP:DABMENTION. Skynxnex (talk) 13:29, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks @Skynxnex; what other topics do you suggest the DAB refer to? Brusquedandelion (talk) 14:24, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

  Looking a bit more, they probably are on the marginal level but things that do occur (like Tantalum(V) chloride, Taiwanese American Citizens League, Therapeutic Advances in Childhood Leukemia & Lymphoma, and a few others). I still think at least currently having TACL being a primary redirect to the journal isn't ready yet. Skynxnex (talk) 14:39, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

  I agree with that. I'm good with it being a dab. Brusquedandelion (talk) 19:36, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

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