Talk:Synurid

Requested move 31 August 2025

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The result of the move request was: no move. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Snoteleks (talk) 18:53, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

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Synurid → SynurophyceaeSynurophyceae – These sources support it: https://doi.org/10.1002/j.1537-2197.1987.tb08616.x, https://doi.org/10.1080/07352689.2020.1787679 and https://doi.org/10.23860/thesis-terpis-kristina-2021. Jako96 (talk) 20:01, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

@Jako96 Synurophyceae is not scientific consensus, plenty of taxonomic sources treat it as an order of Chrysophyceae and they phylogenetically branch within them, not apart from them. In any case, the common name "synurid" takes preference here, because it can refer to both the order Synurales and its monotypic hypothetical class Synurophyceae. I can provide sources when I get back home — Snoteleks (talk) 22:50, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

"Synurophyceae" has 2.620 hits in Google Scholar, "synurid" has 16 and "Synurales" has 563. Are you sure Synurophyceae isn't consensus? Jako96 (talk) 08:07, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

@Jako96 Yes, I can show you sources now: doi:10.1007/s13127-022-00554-y, doi:10.1111/jeu.12287, doi:10.1016/j.ejop.2022.125915, doi:10.1007/978-3-319-28149-0_43, doi:10.1111/j.1756-1051.2013.00119.x. In summary, according to all phylogenetic analyses, synurids branch within class Chrysophyceae, with at least the orders Paraphysomonadida and Segregatales more basal than Synurales. All of these sources are taxonomic authorities on this topic (and on Chrysophyceae in general). I suspect that most of the hits on Google Scholar of "Synurophyceae" are from ecological surveys (especially dated 1999-2010), not articles that study the taxonomy itself. — Snoteleks (talk) 14:05, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

@Jako96 Do you have any other comments about this topic? — Snoteleks (talk) 18:32, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

No, just close it. By the way, are you interested in this discussion? Jako96 (talk) 18:36, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

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