Talk:Syntax (band)/Archive 1

Archive 1

Correction: Trademark Dispute vs. Copyright Strike

I am a representative of the US band Syntax (syntaxband.com). I am requesting a technical correction to the article to accurately reflect the legal nature of the name dispute. Current text: "...led to widespread copyright strikes..." Requested change: "...led to widespread trademark claims..." Reason: The dispute is a trademark matter regarding the legal right to use the name "Syntax," not a copyright matter regarding the musical compositions or recordings themselves. Using the term "copyright strikes" is legally inaccurate.

Supporting Evidence (USPTO Registrations):

Reg. No. 4639300 (Live musical performances)

Reg. No. 6269376 (Downloadable music and recordings)

Reg. No. 6994335 (Non-downloadable music and videos)

Douglas at Syntax (talk) 20:45, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

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I am a representative of the US band Syntax. I would like to provide an independent secondary source to assist in correcting the technical error regarding "copyright strikes" vs. "trademark claims."

I also want to be transparent that I was involved in a dispute on this page seven years ago. I now fully understand Wikipedia's COI guidelines and am strictly using this Talk page to provide verifiable evidence for a factual correction.

Independent Evidence of Prior Use:

The Ames Daily Tribune (August 16, 1984) confirms that the US band Syntax was a featured performer in the "Concert in the Park" series at Brookside Park. This establishes the band's active status nearly 20 years before the UK duo's 2002 formation.

Source Link: Ames Public Library Digital Archive - Aug 16, 1984

This archive, combined with our USPTO registrations (Reg. Nos. 4639300, 6269376, 6994335), confirms that the legal dispute is a trademark name matter, not a copyright matter regarding musical content. I request the article be updated to reflect "trademark claims" to maintain accuracy.

https://ames.advantage-preservation.com/search?k=syntax%20%20concert%20&st=2091&i=f&d=01/01/1984-12/31/1984&bcn=1&m=between&ord=k1 Douglas at Syntax (talk) 21:45, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

Not done: Using those sources in that way would be original research / synthesis, which is against Wikipedia policy, as no source by itself says what you want the article to say. It is not Wikipedia's place to debate this issue with primary sources, rather to make reference to what reliable sources are reporting.

That being said, I will remove the paragraph in question as it does not have sufficient sourcing in it's current form either, and I cannot find anything on the internet. If you can find a sufficient source, go ahead and reopen this request. Seercat3160 (talk) 08:14, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

Infobox correction request: Remove "Dr. Syntax" alias

Request to correct infobox (COI declaration) Hello,I have a COI regarding this page (American Syntax band) and am requesting an independent editor make this change.In the infobox, please remove "Also known as: Dr. Syntax". "Dr. Syntax" is a separate UK hip-hop artist (Benjamin Hughes / Benny Huge), unrelated to the electronic band Syntax. This appears to be an error.Thank you. Douglas at Syntax (talk) 21:18, 17 July 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. Do you have anything (reliable source(s)) to support this claim? - FlightTime (open channel) 21:22, 17 July 2026 (UTC)

@FlightTime: Thank you so much for the swift help clearing up the "Dr. Syntax" alias mismatch in the infobox! Since you are familiar with the page cleanup, could you please take a look at the open request text above regarding the 2012 History paragraph and the "studio project" terminology update? I have outlined the current text alongside the proposed factual replacements to clear up the rest of the unverified narrative folklore. Thank you again! Douglas at Syntax (talk) 22:33, 17 July 2026 (UTC)

 Done Seems to me to be correct, if not let the editor replacing it have the burden of proof. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:24, 17 July 2026 (UTC)

COI edit request

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Hello,

I have a COI (American Syntax band) and request an independent editor make these changes for accuracy and sourcing compliance (WP:V, WP:RS, WP:NPOV).

1. Lead / History opening sentence Current: "After the success of Fluke's album Risotto, Mike Tournier wanted to move to a much darker production style. He left Fluke and founded Syntax with Jan Burton in 2000." Proposed replacement: "Syntax was an English electronic music studio project formed in 2003 by producer Mike Tournier (of Fluke) and vocalist Jan Burton."

Reason: The current dramatic narrative is unsourced and overstated. Syntax operated primarily as a studio collaboration. Their promotional appearance on Top of the Pops in 2003 was a standard lip-synced television broadcast rather than an active live band performance, consistent with typical electronic/dance acts of the era. Physical database registries anchor their official public debut and commercial releases to 2003.

2. Later History paragraph Current (full paragraph to remove): "Many years after the split, Syntax reformed, citing that 'people were asking for more',[1] and began working on a series of EPs titled Tripolar. The first episode had been completed while work continued on the second and third episodes. Unlike their first album, their second has been released on their own independent label. In 2012, Syntax released additional material from their first album Meccano Mind and have released three additional tracks: 'Little Love (alternative mix)', 'Peace Vibration' and 'Sensation'." Proposed replacement: "In December 2012, Syntax released the EP Tripolar on their own label Pandephonium."

Reason: The longer paragraph lacks reliable secondary sources. The quote is from a defunct site. The three extra tracks are not part of the official Tripolar EP (different tracklist per Discogs/MusicBrainz). The planned follow-up EPs never appeared.

Thank you for your help keeping the article accurate. Douglas at Syntax (talk) 22:09, 17 July 2026 (UTC)

Not done: your request appears to have been generated by a large language model. Day Creature (talk) 15:38, 18 July 2026 (UTC)

Corrections to lead narrative + 2012 paragraph (COI)

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Hello, I have a COI (American Syntax band) and request an independent editor make these changes for accuracy and sourcing compliance (WP:V, WP:RS, WP:NPOV).

1. Lead / History opening sentence

Current: "After the success of Fluke's album Risotto, Mike Tournier wanted to move to a much darker production style. He left Fluke and founded Syntax with Jan Burton in 2000.

"Proposed replacement: "Syntax was an English electronic music studio project by producer Mike Tournier (of Fluke) and vocalist Jan Burton.

"Reason: The current dramatic narrative is unsourced and overstated. Syntax was primarily a studio collaboration. They appeared lipsynced on Top of the Pops in 2003 promoting "Pray", consistent with typical electronic/dance acts of the era.

2. Later History paragraph

Current (full paragraph to remove): "Many years after the split, Syntax reformed, citing that 'people were asking for more',[1] and began working on a series of EPs titled Tripolar. ... In 2012, Syntax released additional material from their first album Meccano Mind and have released three additional tracks: 'Little Love (alternative mix)', 'Peace Vibration' and 'Sensation'."

Proposed replacement: "In December 2012, Syntax released the EP Tripolar on their own label Pandephonium."

Reason: The longer paragraph lacks reliable secondary sources. The quote is from a defunct site. The three extra tracks are not part of the official Tripolar EP (different tracklist per Discogs/MusicBrainz). The planned follow-up EPs never appeared.

3. "Formed in 2000" claim Current references to formation year: Any mention of "formed in 2000" or similar.

Proposed change: Remove or replace with: "Their debut album Meccano Mind was released in 2003/2004." Reason: The current text lacks reliable secondary sources. The "formed in 2000" claim is unsupported by official music registries, which anchor the project's public debut and commercial releases strictly to 2003–2004. Stripping back to documented release activity keeps the article factual and neutral. Thank you for your help keeping the article accurate.

As a final note for clarity: As the owner of the American rock band Syntax (est. 1982) who uses "Syntax" as my stage name, I want to emphasize the importance of maintaining clear boundaries on this page. Proper disambiguation and strict sourcing compliance help respect the names, trademarks, and histories of both projects while keeping the encyclopedia accurate for all readers. Thank you to the editors for your assistance with this cleanup.

Douglas Martens (Syntax) Douglas at Syntax (talk) 23:44, 17 July 2026 (UTC)

Douglas at Syntax (talk) 23:12, 17 July 2026 (UTC)

Not done: your request appears to have been generated by a large language model. Day Creature (talk) 15:38, 18 July 2026 (UTC)