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Latest comment: 11 months ago by Moonraker12 in topic Dubious claim

Dubious claim

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The Location section here says that "The GWR mainline was originally planned to cut through Savernake Forest": So, where does this idea come from? What is the source for this? Anyway, Brunel was wanting a high speed line, and aimed for the gentlest gradients achievable; so taking the line over the Marlborough Downs through Savernake would make no sense. The route actually taken offers the lowest way between the Thames and Severn valleys; Swindon station is about 80 meters above sea level, compared to Reading (40 metres) and London (20 meters). Contraiwise Savernake is 160 metres above sea level, so that would be a much steeper climb. Is that claim really true? Moonraker12 (talk) 16:13, 15 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

It's pre-Brunel. Several early schemes all favoured a route through Trowbridge and the Vale of Pewsey. Thgis would, I suspect, have passed to the south of Savernake Forest. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:28, 15 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Redrose64: Thanks for replying. My apologies for not responding sooner; I hadn’t had a chance to look into this until recently)
So, I haven’t found anything to suggest that Brunel wasn’t the original engineer for the GWR, or that the route via Swindon wasn’t his original intent. I did find a mention of a previous scheme (or maybe a previous incarnation of the GWR) called the Bristol & London Rail-Road Company, but their chief engineer, John McAdam, also favoured a route through the Vale of White Horse, as being the flattest possible.
So what would be the source of the info here, do you know? And is it reliable, do you think? Or has it got muddled up with the Kennet & Avon/Bruce Tunnel story? Moonraker12 (talk) 23:58, 15 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Try E.T. MacDermot's History of the Great Western Railway, volume 1. Originally published in 1927, a second edition (revised by C.R. Clinker) was produced in about 1964, and has been reprinted occasionally since. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:15, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Redrose64: OK, assuming I can’t easily get my hands on a copy, what does it actually say? Moonraker12 (talk) 00:19, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply