Talk:Susan Monarez

To add to article

Basic information to add to this article (in order to help make it more properly encyclopedic): Monarez's date of birth, and information about her family background, ethnic heritage, and early life. 98.123.38.211 (talk) 05:38, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

There is a suggestion that she is 56 years of age (born around 1969) and married to Eduardo D. Monarez. But there are online 'cookie crumbs' suggesting that she was born November 6, 1974. which matches the academic history that we have for her. We think that her middle name is Patricia. MaynardClark (talk) 03:15, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Trump says that Monarez is a mother. "As an incredible mother and dedicated public servant, Dr. Monarez understands the importance of protecting our children, our communities, and our future..." We think that she is married to Eduardo Daniel Monarez (about 2008).MaynardClark (talk) 04:49, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Publications

We need a select list of her scientific publications in refereed publications.MaynardClark (talk) 05:09, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Academic career

Who were her academic advisors in her graduate education? What was the topic of her thesis? were the topics of her theses? MaynardClark (talk) 05:09, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

References

Medical Degree Clarifications?

Currently, the 'Career' section says "If confirmed, she would be the first director without a medical degree since 1953" which reflects the language used by some news articles. Per Associated Press (same citation as article) "She holds a doctorate in microbiology and immunology from the University of Wisconsin, and did postdoctoral research at Stanford University." PhD in the medical fields of microbiology and immunology is a type of graduate-level education in medicine but is technically not a medical degree (MD) in the U.S. My understanding is MD's are professional degrees for practicing medicine and are obtained a bit differently than PhDs. But, the distinction between PhD and a medical degree in this context is confusing for a casual reader. Adding a superscript note clarifying the difference when hovering over the citation might be useful for readers.

Opinions? KinnexusOnW (talk) 19:44, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

Concur with KinnexusOnW that the small distinctions between the PhD and MD are not clearly understood to casual readers. Most deep researchers in the medical field do the PhD route, study diseases, do lots of work with clear liquids in labs, etc. ; they just can't actually treat patients and prescribe drugs for people. The M.D. degree is full of a lot more work w patients, and in years 1 through 3, much broader work across all medical specialities, before much more focus in year 4, and in the start of practice as an MD. It is more of a headline-grabbing midwit take to over-index on one vs. the other in the personnel who staff the upper reaches of government public health & disease bureaus. N2e (talk) 12:05, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

It states she studied veterinary medicine and got a PhD. It seems a bit picky to say she doesn't have a medical degree since animals are often "practiced" on due to their similarity to the human body. Many of their other treatments, medications, etc., are similar to humans. too picky. 47.39.29.120 (talk) 22:08, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

She has not yet been fired

Wikipedia really shouldn't be putting in its voice statements made without evidence (no, news agencies parroting press releases without due diligence is not evidence). --Pinchme123 (talk) 00:19, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

I was just about to comment on this after adding a source with a statement from her lawyer. This word came later today, though, after the earlier sources were included. Funcrunch (talk) 00:23, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

And here it's stated too: https://www.dw.com/en/cdc-head-fired-after-four-weeks-leading-public-health-agency/a-73789762 – Doc Taxon • Talk • 15:05, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Only the president (of the US) can fire her. So she is not yet fired. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 16:39, 28 August 2025 (UTC).

The current reporting is that it's under dispute, so the article should reflect that rather than making a judgement for ourselves. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 17:39, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

I agree, the article should reflect only that she has been "asserted" to have been fired until the matter is resolved. 2600:100A:B12E:A37C:801A:AC1B:FAC5:72B (talk) 18:21, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Regardless of what side anyone is on in this dispute, the edit warring needs to stop. I've filed a request for page protection. Funcrunch (talk) 18:56, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. Neurology prof (talk) 19:08, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Misinformation being pushed on this article

I keep undoing erroneous edits which link NYT articles reporting ONLY that the White House has fired Dr. Monarez, not that her firing has been approved by the President, thus the issue remains in dispute and users should refrain from publishing end dates to her tenure without context. Neurology prof (talk) 19:04, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

I support the locking of this article until more information is forthcoming. Neurology prof (talk) 19:09, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

The article itself notes the dispute. But the info box flatly lists an end date for her tenure. Should a parenthetical note saying something like "(reported)" be added there? NME Frigate (talk) 20:22, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2025

Change:

her father was a diary farmer

To:

her father was a dairy farmer Generalost (talk) 12:51, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

In progress: An editor is implementing the requested edit. veko. (user | talk | contribs) 13:45, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

 Done veko. (user | talk | contribs) 13:50, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

Edits about Monarez "no longer trying to be reinstated"

On September 5, @Antony-22 reverted my earlier reversion of their edit, but their edit summary (continued in their following edit) wrongfully implied that I did so only because it was a paywalled source. As I stated in my own edit summary, it was because I could find no other RS to back up the statement that However, by September 3, she was no longer trying to be reinstated. I just took another look at news about Monarez posted since then, and still can find no other RS that back up this statement. But I will refrain from reverting the edit again myself. I invite other editors to weigh in. Funcrunch (talk) 18:23, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

It is explicitly stated in the cited article: "Monarez refused and fought the attempt to remove her, though she has since stopped trying to be reinstated, according to a person familiar with the matter." Stat is a reputable medical news source owned by the Boston Globe. Per WP:PAYWALL, another free source does not need to be found for it to appear in the Wikipedia article. I really don't see any policy reason to remove the statement: this is not a case where there are two sources that disagree, so the requirements of WP:RS are met. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 04:28, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

How can she "try to be reinstated", when she is not fired by President Trump, who reportedly, is the only person who can fire her? 24.5.150.175 (talk) 17:05, 17 September 2025 (UTC)