Talk:Sunar

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 December 2025

Sonar Sunar Swarkar are called as Goldsmiths specializing in Gold Jewelery making.And use of Gold & Diamond Jewelery making for Women & God s in Hindu Temples.Vishwabrahmins are involced in Hindu Temple Jewelery Making and Vishwakarma's are involved in Wedding Jewelery making. Brahma created Vishwabrahmins & Vishwakarmas as per puranas and in the hindi movie Brahmastra.Reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahm%C4%81stra:_Part_One_%E2%80%93_Shiva.~2025-39135-78 (talk) 20:08, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 00:38, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

Sunar, also spelled Sonar, Soni, Swarnkar or Swarnakar, is a traditional Indian community historically associated with goldsmithing, jewellery and the working and trading of gold and other precious metals. The community is found in several regions of northern, central and western India, with substantial regional variation in names, social organization, lineage traditions and religious affiliation. Among Hindu Sunar/Sonar communities, traditional social-status claims are not uniform. Many regional communities have historically identified with Vaishya traditions, while particular Sunar/Sonar groups have claimed Kshatriya or Rajput ancestry. Historical Census records provide explicit examples of Sonars identifying as Mair Rajput and Mathur Rajput in the United Provinces, and the 1931 Delhi Census recorded examples such as “Sunar (Rajput)” and “Sunar (Khatri).” The terms Sunar, Sonar and Swarnkar have also been used in different regions as occupational or community names. Therefore, the presence of the same occupational designation among different religious communities should not by itself be taken to mean that all such groups constitute one homogeneous caste community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Golujadiya (talk • contribs) 12:07, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Please change the info, here is accurate history of sonar caste

Indira Gandhi National Open University (IGNOU) — “Ambedkar and Lohia on Caste” (Unit-7 PDF): Azadbharatisoni (talk) 20:52, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

 Not done. It isn't clear what changes you want, and we need more than simply the title of a source. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 15:59, 9 August 2026 (UTC)

Soni is historically classified under Sudra. However, with access to gold and trade they have also claimed vaisha varna. The fall in OBC category’s

Here is refrence link - https://grokipedia.com/page/Soni_(caste) Azadbharatisoni (talk) 04:17, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

 Not done. Grokipedia is an unreliable, AI-generated source. We cannot cite other wikis anyway. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 18:46, 8 August 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 March 2026

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The community is primarily Hindu, Sikh, Muslim and found all over India. In the state of Haryana, Muslim Sunars[clarification needed] are on the Other Backward Class list and Hindu Sunars[clarification needed] are Scheduled Castes.[3]

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The community is primarily Hindu, Sikh, Muslim and found all over India. In the state of Haryana, Muslim Sunars[clarification needed] are on the Other Backward Class list and Hindu Sunars[clarification needed] are also in Other Backward Class list.

Flow006 (talk) 09:04, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. {{GearsDatapacks|talk|contribs}} 08:50, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

this is the official government list for scheduled castes in the state of Haryana, India -> https://haryanascbc.gov.in/reservation-in-haryana/list-of-scheduled-castes , 'Sunar' community is no where to be seen in this list. On the other hand this is the official government other backward classes list for the state of Haryana, India -> https://haryanascbc.gov.in/reservation-in-haryana/list-of-backward-classes , 'Sunar' community can be clearly seen at serial number 55. Flow006 (talk) 10:38, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

why is it not fixed yet? reliable sources have been provided. Please make the corrections. Flow006 (talk) 08:28, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

 Done, but not the way requested. The cited source doesn't make any distinction between Hindu and Muslim. Also the sentence violated WP:LEAD by existing there without any mention in the body text, so I moved it to the body text. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 18:44, 8 August 2026 (UTC)

What's the agenda behind mentioning "Sunar SC in Haryana" in the opening paragraph as opposed to in the Factions section?

This almost seems like an attempt to make Sunars known as SC. Move it to the Factions or some other later sections. "Sunar SC in Haryana" does not merit a mention in the opening paragraph, because out of all states, Haryana is the only one doing it. So, it's clearly an exception, not the norm. ~2026-31088-08 (talk) 17:24, 24 May 2026 (UTC)

 Done, moved to social status section, but if it belongs in the faction section, it can be moved there too. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 18:45, 8 August 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 August 2026

Sunar Swarnakar Soni Johari are gold jewelery & diamond jewelery makers for humans & non human identies ( God & Goddesses ) in Temples in India & globally around the world. Goldsmiths are a categorized as Vishwabrahmin & Vishwakarma. As per goverment records they are categorized as OBC Creamy & Non-Creamy Castes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swapna Swarnakar (talk • contribs) 16:39, 8 August 2026 (UTC)

 Not done. Please propose a change in the form "change X to Y" or "add X after Y" or "remove X", stating clearly what X and Y are, and citing reliable sources to support your change. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 18:33, 8 August 2026 (UTC)