Talk:Stroller

Baby carriage = stroller?

Baby carriage currently redirects to Baby transport, but the associated commons category for this article is "Baby carriages". Strangely there are two separate Wikidata items: Q507141 and Q13216737. Are "baby carriage" and "stroller" synonyms? MediaKyle (talk) 02:03, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

@MediaKyle: I'm not sure. I think it'd be a good idea to ask someone who has more expertise with British English. Usually I hear that term in historical TV shows and they're talking about a pram, so I feel like it might be ambiguous enough to keep the target to baby transport. Not sure what to do about the wikidata items. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 02:33, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Wikidata is confused, as it often is. The Wikidata item to which this article is linked, Q507141, is for prams (child carried reclining), but includes "stroller" and "pushchair" (the topic of this article), where the child is classically in a seated position, although a subclass of modern ones (called "buggies" by the inventor and succeeding sellers) also accommodate reclining infants. Stroller/pushchair should get its own Wikidata item and those terms should be removed from the "baby carriage" (Q507141) item. As to "baby carriage", I believe that and "baby buggy" used to be the US terms for "pram" (so there may still be a difference in what US and UK parents mean when they say "buggy", and "buggy" should be under both Wikidata items, IMO). The reason this matters, outside of encyclopaedic completeness and parents being able to make an informed selection and get what they need, is that the classic stroller/pushchair can't be used for infants; they can't hold their heads up (and have to be shielded carefully from the sun, etc.). Slings and other body-worn methods are alternatives to prams/baby carriages; they're for babies. Pushchairs/strollers are for toddlers (and older kids with special needs).

It would be useful here to have separate paragraphs on the standard type—especially the collapsible ones—the "buggy" type, and the ones that are frames where a car seat is slotted in as the seating (which by now may be what both sellers and buyers in the US assume a seated stroller is). Yngvadottir (talk) 19:46, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

I was hoping to expand this article sometime today. I was thinking it'd be good to have a whole section on "types": jogging stroller, travel stroller, umbrella stroller, double stroller, etc. Maybe it could be a table so images could be displayed neatly for each one? There could probably easily be a history section too. I just needed something to even start out with before fleshing it out, which I accomplished yesterday. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:55, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Expansion ideas

• Stroller glove bar thing? – not really relevant
• Baker source can definitely be used more than it currently is, goes into different stroller trends and what "bougie" strollers might mean for society
• Do more research on perambulators, they seem to be some transition step between prams and strollers
• Use the gift links another editor graciously gave me when I asked for a handful of specific sources  Done
• Maclaren stroller recall where children got their fingers cut , that source also mentions that testing strollers apparently costs $100,000 to do in Canada  Done: another editor wrote about this
• More info about recall, mostly that a million strollers were involved
• Regulation process in other countries?
• "Smart" stroller
• Research strollers as exercise
• Research stroller rentals as a concept
• Do more in the practical considerations section about what parents consider when buying a stroller
• Developmental implications of rear-facing vs front-facing strollers

Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 23:30, 17 March 2026 (UTC), edited 03:11, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Pram

Strollers are also called prams, short for "perambulator" (source: https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/pram) - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:07, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Wait, see pram (baby) - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:08, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

I think this is an EngVar thing. I think pram might be the way to say it in Indian English (and maybe also British English?). Stroller is definitely the word in American English (and maybe Canadian English?) –Novem Linguae (talk) 12:32, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Definitely Canadian English as well, to the extent that I was very confused when people kept going on about prams (to me, people use that word when they're talking about Victorian strollers only). Anyways, I did actually add an extra sentence to the history section yesterday about this. I still need to find good sourcing to explain the baby carriage/pushcart distinction that some areas seem to use? For me, they're all just strollers. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 01:10, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

I think I've sorted it all out in the history section now, although if people can provide better sources for these language distinctions, that would be welcome. I'm not sure they exist yet, though. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 03:02, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Three wheeled

Covered in this V&A article

https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O8974/the-trekker-pushchair-pcd-limited/

Apparently some of the early pushchairs were 3 wheeled but didn't return to mass market until 1983.©Geni (talk) 02:32, 25 March 2026 (UTC)