Talk:Strasserism

Problems with the article

The lead currently says "Strasserism (German: Strasserismus or Straßerismus) is a radical mass action[not verified in body] worker-based tendency within National Socialism, drawing influence from palingenetic ultranationalism and socialist economics". First, "radical mass action worker-based tendency" seems to be POV and not verified. Second, I dispute its influence of 'socialist' economics. Do sources actually say that? Or do they simply advocate a more 'left'-leaning form of fascist corporatism in the form of dirigisme? That they may have advocated planning or even a planned economy does not make them 'socialist' anymore than a planned economy is necessarely socialist; planning has been extensively used during the post-war consensus, in war times and post-war construction by capitalist countries and capitalist countries such as India, Japan and Taiwan made use of five-year plans. I agree with Beyond My Ken that "'Strasserism' isn't a distinct ideology in any way shape or form. It was purely a kind of Nazism. It was not 'left-wing'. Although it did want to retain the socialist aspects of the 25 Points, it was otherwise just as right-wing as any other Fascist group." Yet that does not seem to be clear enough in both lead and body, and indeed seems to follow the Strasserite POV that it was not really another form of Nazism or fascism. Finally, perhaps a distinction should be made between Otto Strasser's Nazi Stasserism and post-Strasser neo-Nazi Strasserism. There are also a few citation needed tags, I hope both you and The Four Deuces can help to improve that and especially that The Four Deuces, with their always good sourcing work, can help us understand what reliable sources actually say about the topic. Davide King (talk) 01:09, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Major revision for clarity

I’ve recently revised the article to improve clarity and better reflect what reliable sources say about Strasserism and the roles of the Strasser brothers. The earlier version included important material, but often blurred distinctions between Otto and Gregor Strasser and relied on generalized or modern interpretations of the ideology.

I’ve restructured the article to reflect Otto Strasser’s own writings—especially Germany Tomorrow—and to present Strasserism as a political program primarily developed through his opposition to Hitler after leaving the NSDAP in 1930 and founding the Black Front. I also added clarification, based on Udo Kissenkötter’s Gregor Straßer und die NSDAP, that many Kampfverlag articles attributed to Gregor were actually written by Otto. I highly recommend that source for anyone interested in Gregor’s actual position within the party, though as far as I know, it is currently available only in German.

More broadly, the structure and framing of this revision were informed by Ashley Kirspel’s "The Myth of Strasserite Socialism", which offers a helpful critique of how the term Strasserism has been interpreted.

Another useful reference is Peter D. Stachura’s Gregor Strasser and the Rise of Nazism, which provides a detailed portrayal of Gregor’s political career. While the book was helpful in understanding his role within the NSDAP, its framing tends to portray both Gregor and the party leadership of the time as more moderate or conservative than they likely were in the late 1920s and early 1930s. It’s also worth noting that the book sometimes relies in part on Otto Strasser’s retrospective accounts, which may have influenced how Gregor is presented. Gregor nonetheless remained a committed member of the Nazi Party until his death.

The “Influence” section still needs work, as some of the examples listed appear to be included based on rhetorical similarity rather than clear ideological lineage. In particular, earlier versions of the article cited several nationalist or neo-Nazi organizations that were influenced more directly by Hitler’s interpretation of National Socialism than by Otto Strasser’s dissident program, but were labeled “Strasserist” seemingly because of their anti-capitalist rhetoric or their fit with a popular image of what Strasserism is supposed to sound like. However, such language was not unique to Strasser, and was part of broader Nazi discourse as well. I’ve made only limited edits there for now, but further review and source-based clarification would be helpful.

Apologies for the number of individual edits, and for anything that remains unclear. My understanding is limited, and I’d welcome corrections or improvements from others. Thanks again to previous editors whose work helped shape the article. WhistlerMode (talk) 22:37, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Left or right?

Isn't Strasssrism central left? i mean it's clearly authoritarian, but I thought it's just a little leftist and not far right due to the fact that it is really close to nazbolism. Ary the KMT enjoyer (talk) 21:35, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

Tone of article

This reads far more like an essay on the topic rather than an objective, generalized view of the ideology as a whole.

Going to try and make a few edits now, but significant work has to be done. FinnSoThin (talk) 03:48, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Hi! Glad to see someone willing to improve this article! Yes, the article definitely needs some work on its tone.

Just please keep in mind that for this kind of dissident far-right ideology, there isn't actually that much deep research available. A lot of sources just mention it in passing based on existing tropes, and many claims can be traced directly back to Otto Strasser himself. Because of this, it's actually really hard, though not impossible to describe it in an “objective” or “generalized” way. But what is clear is that it doesn't have any actual “left-wing” essence.

Anyway, happy editing! WhistlerMode (talk) 19:00, 25 March 2026 (UTC)