Talk:Stepney

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This section is unsourced and contains material of dubious value. I have moved it here in case any editor wishes to investigate the claims and incorporate them into the article with appropriate sources. SilkTork *^YES! 17:36, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Notable fictional appearances

The BBC sitcom Goodnight Sweetheart was set in Stepney. The Rolling Stones' song "Play with Fire" references Stepney: "Now she gets her kicks in Stepney, not in Knightsbridge anymore." In Blackadder II Episode 6, Lord Percy explains the disappearance of his Uncle Bertram's old oak table thus: "'twas on the night of the great Stepney fire. And on that same, terrible night, his house and all his other things completely vanished too. So did he, in fact. It was a most perplexing mystery." In the film Help!, Alfie Bass has a cameo where he portrays a doorman of an Indian restaurant. When Ringo Starr discovers Alfie Bass is not an actual Indian, he exclaims "He's from the West!" Bass replies "Nah, east...Stepney." The English Nursery Rhyme Oranges and Lemons refers to the "...bells of Stepney." In George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four, set in England, he writes about rocket bombs killing many people: "One fell on a crowded film theatre in Stepney, burying several hundred victims among the ruins." This is in Chapter 5, Part 2. In the opening scene of the film Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, the character Bacon makes reference to a piece of jewelry that is "hand made in Italy, hand stolen in Stepney". In Arthur Conan Doyle's short story The Adventure of the Six Napoleons, Sherlock Holmes traces the origin of the eponymous plaster busts of Napoleon Bonaparte to a factory in Church Street, Stepney.

Births at sea?

I have heard that at one time, all those born at sea were entered as being of the parish of Stepney. If true, ths should be sourced, and put in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.149.136.11 (talk) 08:50, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

"Earls" of Cleveland

There was only one Earl of Cleveland, so the reference is both incorrect and doesn't add much.Roryharrow (talk) 18:23, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Stepney

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Stepney's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "subbrit":

• From Fulham: "Chelsea & Fulham". Disused Stations. Subterranea Britannica. Archived from the original on 29 October 2013. Retrieved 31 July 2013. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
• From Chelsea, London: "Chelsea & Fulham". Disused Stations. Subterranea Britannica. Retrieved 31 July 2013.
• From Limehouse: "Subterranea Britannica - Stepney East".

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 10:19, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Stepney ancient parish article

Moved from User talk:MRSC § Bermondsey and Stepney

Bermondsey parish was the same as the Metropolitan Borough of Bermondsey, from 1904 the other 2 parishes were merged with it so from what I can see your convention is when the parish has the same area as a district such as Dagenham (parish) and Poplar Borough (parish) is to redirect it to the district rather than the area namely Dagenham. The same is the case with Stepney from 1927. Even if the boundaries were different per WP:UKPARISHES we don't normally split and we would otherwise cover in Stepney for the ancient parish. For those like Poplar that were always only a part of the district we would cover them in the settlement. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:58, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

In the majority of cases, say where a parish later became a borough, this can be handled in the same article. However, there are some that do not follow this pattern and need to be handled on a case-by-case basis.

Stepney ancient parish covered a huge area that was notably divided into many smaller areas up to 1866 when it then ceased to exist. The modern day neighbourhood of Stepney/Stepney Green is a tiny fraction of that area. The 1927 creation of Stepney Borough parish is distinct from both these areas (the same as the borough). This iteration also had only nominal existence compared to the others, used for election of guardians for only three years. Stepney (parish) could be renamed to Stepney (ancient parish) to make this clearer.

Bermondsey is a case where the ancient parish did not become a borough, but was amalgamated with two other parishes, which then covered a larger area. It does not make sense to have a combined parish/borough article for this. However, I would not object to this redirecting to Bermondsey instead. MRSC (talk) 17:35, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

Many ancient parishes cover larger areas then the current area and while it may have been much larger in the 18th century the map doesn't show it covering a very large area. Anyway the convention for haing single articles would probably apply especially in urbanized areas where the distinction between areas is less so however for the same reason as Bermondsey maybe it should just redirect to Stepney. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:07, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

If Stepney (locality) article was well written, all the information for the ancient parish it would still need to be spun out as a seperate article anyway. MRSC (talk) 19:23, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

The information about the ancient parish can easily be covered in the locality article as standard even if it becomes well written. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:29, 12 September 2026 (UTC)