Talk:State of Panama
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| On 29 May 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from Panama State to State of Panama. The result of the discussion was moved. |
How can Isthmus Department be a successor?
[edit]In the Isthmus Department article, it states that it was established in 1824 and then dissolved in 1855. So, how can it be a successor when it ended when the Panama State was made? Wouldn't it instead be a predecessor? SonOfYoutubers (talk) 19:32, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- Actually, I just realized that it claims it to be a predecessor, but I guess the article were merged at some point and they both lead to the same article, but that still presents the issue of how it was claimed to be a successor. SonOfYoutubers (talk) 19:35, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- I also just stumbled upon this; the problem is, that Isthmus Department was the predecessor, then it became Panama State, which then turned into Panama Department, but that link is redirected over to Isthmus department (because it's a synonym). Instead, Panama Department should be its own page and it's next successor should be Panama. I don't know who to tag or how to solve this, but until it's done, this will likely be stuck in a limbo state of endless repetition. KormiSK (talk) 11:28, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- The article must be separated, since the department of 1886-1903 constituted a different centralist administration. NicolásF2 (talk) 17:33, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- In addition, it is also omitted here that during part of the Republic of New Granada, Panama was divided between provinces and the so-called "National Territories". NicolásF2 (talk) 17:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- The article must be separated, since the department of 1886-1903 constituted a different centralist administration. NicolásF2 (talk) 17:33, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- I also just stumbled upon this; the problem is, that Isthmus Department was the predecessor, then it became Panama State, which then turned into Panama Department, but that link is redirected over to Isthmus department (because it's a synonym). Instead, Panama Department should be its own page and it's next successor should be Panama. I don't know who to tag or how to solve this, but until it's done, this will likely be stuck in a limbo state of endless repetition. KormiSK (talk) 11:28, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 29 May 2026
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 04:45, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Panama State → State of Panama – As it is now, it reads really clunkily. As far as I can tell, there's no reference in this article that supports it being called "the Panama State", just Spanish-language documents that call it the Sovereign/Federal State of Panama. I found a New York Times article of the time (1861) which called it "The State of Panama". ~ Misha Vargas (talk | contribs) 07:23, 29 May 2026 (UTC)
- Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:30, 29 May 2026 (UTC)
- Support, per nom. This ngram shoes that "State of Panama" is overwhelmingly used more. State of Panama also sounds much more natural.
- Grilledcheeseisgreat ✉ 18:17, 29 May 2026 (UTC)
- Support per nom's "clunky". It's not the only one, though: Category:States of Colombia indicates that a bulk move is needed, for consistency's sake. Would not object to Panama (state) (etc.) as an alternative, particularly since "State of Panama" could be construed as referring to the modern-day republic. Moscow Mule (talk) 21:42, 29 May 2026 (UTC)
- We could just add at the top "This article is about the former Colombian state. To read the article about the modern country, see [link]." or something like that. Grilledcheeseisgreat ✉ 22:02, 29 May 2026 (UTC)
- Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:19, 1 June 2026 (UTC)