Talk:Stanley Stair

Articles needed

Several additional articles we are on the look out for from Jamaican newspapers:

• "Still Standing – A war veteran's survival story" by Arlene Martin (October 2000) – article commemorating his 100th birthday
• 2008 obituary (there appear to be multiple)

And of course, any other news clippings regarding Stanley Stair would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:26, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

SpringerLink access

If your university or institution has access to Springer, the book chapter we are looking for which discusses Stanley Stair is:

Smith, Richard (2017). "British West Indian Memories of World War One: From Militarized Citizenship to Conscientious Objection". In: Puri, S., Putnam, L. (eds) Caribbean Military Encounters. New Caribbean Studies. Palgrave Macmillan, New York. https://doi.org/10.1057/978-1-137-58014-6_3

Here is the SpringerLink entry for the chapter: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/978-1-137-58014-6_3

Or...perhaps your library has a hard copy of the book? Thanks in advance. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:01, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Imperial war museum link cites this article

https://livesofthefirstworldwar.iwm.org.uk/lifestory/4223154

The above link is cited in the article for the date of death. In the link, the date of death has a source which is just this wikipedia article citing it. The Elysian Vector Fields (talk) 07:38, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Good spot. Added a different Smith chapter (2014) as a source, which states that Stair died at age 107, 18 months before "Soldiers of Empire" was transmitted in the UK. "Soldiers of Empire" was transmitted on 9 November 2009, and 18 months before that is either April or May 2008. So I've left the April 2008 for now and tagged as "additional source needed". Perhaps one of the surviving family members could provide the death certificate to the Imperial War Museum, and then we could cite that IWM record. Cielquiparle (talk) 06:13, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Also, per my note in June 2022 above, apparently at the time I managed to work out that there was one more than one obituary for him, but wasn't able to access them. That would work too if it confirms the date. (As I recall, in "Soldiers of Empire", the family members show Ian Hislop multiple newspaper clippings.) Cielquiparle (talk) 06:26, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

This is all resolved now. Nola Stair clearly states in the Ian Hislop interview that her grandfather died in April 2008 at the age of 107. Of course, it would still be great if we could get a copy of the obituary or death certificate as an additional source, but this is definitely better than citing IWM which cites Wikipedia (which is circular). Cielquiparle (talk) 13:14, 26 March 2025 (UTC)