Talk:Standard language

really observable?

Standard language is variety of a language that deprived of any deviances in phonology, garmmar and so forth. However, Does the use of the standard language can be really observable in everyday society, or maybe it is merely the myth that we all speak correctly ?

• Uh, I think generally speech is more standardized now than it has been through the history. I'd guess that would mean when people from different areas of a country or a language continuum meet, they generally get closer to the language found in TV and Newspapers to make themselves understood.

• Obviously this depends on the language and the respective government policy. For example, the Finnish standard language is virtually the only language written or spoken on TV. There are no newscasters who would speak a dialect in the news. --Vuo 01:37, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

You missed the example of the 4 standards of Serbo-Croatian Language.

Purposly or not, in your list of examples of standard and non-standard languages, you've missed one of the most obvious examples in SE Europe - Serbocroatian language, with its standards: Serbian, Croatian, Montenegrin and Bosnian (and very possibly very soon-Bunjevac). Even though the differences between these politicaly existing 'standards' of Serbocroatian language are minor(2-3%), and certainly much less than the differences between the italian dialects for example, because of the meaningless hatred and poinless propaganda from the western side of this language's area, they are now theirown 'standards', recognized by not any serious scientific factor in the world. Anyway, it's rediculous what's going on with this beautiful language, all this partition is senseless and pathetic, and hopefully it will be replaced soon by a reasonable unification like it's always been and like it's a case in all civilized countries or unions like EU. Regards and cheers:)).24.86.110.10 (talk) 06:57, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

who exactly speaks serbo-croatian language today? i bet it's the citizens of yugoslavia, the land that no longer exists. serbs don't, croats don't etc. and that makes this entry ridiculous (not "rediculous" as you've said). unification of serbia and croatia? boy oh boy you're really not following politics that closely are you? and what unified language in EU are you talking about? either way, you obliterated the facts in this case, you pronounced a dead quasi-language as the standard of all ex-yugoslavia republics, and there's a good reason that 'ex' now stands there. with a country gone, so are the attempts to make one language from few standard languages, and that was never a single langauge, i never spoke that language even in the times of yugoslavia. (93.143.3.152 (talk) 06:08, 23 January 2017 (UTC))

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"Regulating body"

What does it mean to be a "regulator" or a "regulating body" of a language? As a Swede, I am surprised to see here Svenska språkrådet listed as a "regulator" of the Swedish language.

There are no general laws in Sweden regulating language use and there is no body that sets an agenda for the future development of the language. The Swedish Language Council simply documents the current usage of the language and acts as an expert group for those seeking advice on usage of the language. They also publish recommendations on writing style and grammar use, based on current developments of the Swedish language. To some extent their work goes further into a slightly more leading role, by publishing terminology glossaries on relatively new technological terms, but calling it "regulating" still seems a bit strong.

If you would ask most Swedes who is regulating their language, they would say either "nobody", "the media" or "the Swedish Academy", since the latter publishes continuously its etymological and historical "word book" and annually its "word list" documenting the current active vocabulary of the Swedish language. But they are still not regulating, just documenting.

The last actual regulative act enacted in Sweden regarding the Swedish language was the Orthographical Reform of 1906, on the initiative of the "Minister for Ecclesiastics" (minister for church, education, and popular upbringing), defining the standard orthography taught in Swedish schools.

Open paragraph, part 2

Any way we can simply replace By processes that linguistic anthropologists call "referential displacement" and that sociolinguists call "elaboration of function",[clarification needed] these varieties acquire high social prestige. into something like By processes [here briefly explained], these varieties acquire high social prestige and keep the technical jargon to just the body of the article. Does anyone object to my, or have feedback for me, making edits in this sentence? Wolfdog (talk) 16:39, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Neither of those terms is discussed in the body of the article, so it is difficult to justify retaining them in the introduction. Kanguole 17:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

I think that the current lead, including your recent edits, looks good. I agree that technical language should be minimized in the lead. The only change I might suggest regards standardization usually begins with a particular variety being selected [...], accepted by influential people, socially and culturally spread to include influential people or groups, since standardization may involve groups such as governments, industries, etc. But that is not something I would insist on. Cnilep (talk) 02:40, 1 April 2024 (UTC)