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Latest comment: 1 year ago by AirshipJungleman29 in topic Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 12:31, 9 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Supporters from Leksand IF, Swedish ice hockey team
Supporters from Leksand IF, Swedish ice hockey team
Created by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 546 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:03, 7 February 2025 (UTC).Reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: I am not a great reviewer (or I'm just rusty), so bear with me on this. Prose-wise, there is a good framework to this, but the article formatting is a little off-putting to me due to the presence of a lot of one-sentence paragraphs. I understand that not every paragraph can have multiple sentences, but the points are raised rather suddenly and then not bulked up by later points. It brings up some good concepts, however. The mention of class is always interesting in a general article like this, and that seems to be the aspect of this article that is built up the most. Concerns I have besides the paragraphs are that there are some duplications on points (Commodification is mentioned twice, for example), and some odd phrasing in places ("such as sports riot" sticks out, as does "tailgation," which I've never heard before, even as a sports fan myself). One thing I'd like to see, perhaps, is an image of an American sports fan...a lot of the writing I see has American viewpoints (though not so many as to cause a POV problem), but the pictures are both European. It's not a deal-breaker, but one would add some flair to the article, especially if it's a "superfan" of sorts. As far as sourcing is concerned, I can't access the dominant source (I probably could if I remembered where I can find access), but I'm AGF in you using it correctly. Like I said, I'm not good at QPQ reviews. I have to be subjective with them, and that's not how I write. If you need more (or better) information, let me know on my talk page. Basically, however, it needs some polish, and a little more depth, but it's a good start. BTW, I like the class hook best. JustJamie820 (talk) 01:16, 19 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

    • @JustJamie820: Thank you for the review. I've added an image of the American sport supporters, there was room. I've also removed tailgation from the see also (it was recently deleted as not notable/very badly written). I think the two mentions of commodification are fine. However, I fear your other comments are too vague to be actionable and crucially, not related to WP:DYKCRIT (i.e. I think your standards are too high for a DYK review - of course, I am a bit defensive and subjective, but I've also written ~1,000 DYKs, so at least I am reasonably experienced with what generally can get DYKed). This is not a a WP:GA, just a start-to-C class level article, outlining the topic. Some one-sentence paragraphs need expanding; this entire article should be much longer. "some polish" and "a little more depth", which are both needed here (I concur) are not required for DYK (an article could be rejected if it had a glaring omission, like - per DYKCRIT example - an article about a book that's completely missing a plot summary). This article, however, has no glaring omissions (at least, none have been identified) - I've based it on two professional encyclopedias (their entries about the topic) and I believe I summarize all key points that are raised in those works. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:23, 19 February 2025 (UTC)Reply
      • @Piotrus: You're right. It's been a while (six years or so) since I did one of these reviews, and I did confuse the nature of reviewing something for DYK with all the reviews I've ever seen for FA's, FL's, FT's, and, even though I've never seen an actual review process in action for one of those, probably GA's. My apologies for getting those mixed up. You're also right that it covers what needs to be covered with an article like that. You did well to make it professionally cited and properly wikilinked. Maybe I didn't know what to expect out of an article like that and took on too large of a topic. Anyway, back to the review. As an overview, it covers everything it should, which I was impressed with even as I was making my initial review for things that aren't for DYK. I'm upgrading the "maybe" to "yes" as a result. Congrats on another DYK entry. Sorry if this wasn't the best review process. -- JustJamie820 (talk) 05:44, 19 February 2025 (UTC)Reply