Talk:Spanish Castle Magic

"Very popular" or not?

Very funny that the editor named EscapeOrbit removed the comment about Pat O'Day being a "very popular" DJ. Only someone who is completely uninformed about Seattle music history could say a thing like that. Pat O'Day was by far the most famous radio personality in Seattle for about 20 years. This is why he has a Wikipedia page. He was a local legend and was also known in the music industry nationwide. It's actually not opinion at all. I guess the "experts" always know everything. LOL!!! ~2026-14636-22 (talk) 01:55, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

The level of popularity a DJ has is a matter of opinion, which encyclopaedias don't give unattributed. Encyclopaedias may show how popular he was factually, but otherwise "very popular" reads as peacocking. Fortunately, in the case of this article about a song, the popularity of Pat O'Day is irrelevant, being a tangent on a tangent on a tangent. So his popularity is something that is best left to his own article, which can take the time to demonstrate it to the reader. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 07:21, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

"Experts" are stupid too. Your points do not keep you from making mistakes. CORRECTION - Jimi was not "booked" by Pat O'Day at the Spanish Castle. He simply turned up with his guitar and convinced musicians to let him join in. NO ONE really knew who he was at the time. He did not become a recognized figure until years later. At this time O'Day was a celebrity and Jimi was totally unknown. Pat O'Day says that he did not remember meeting Jimi at the Castle. It was Jimi who reminded him of this. You are obviously not from Seattle and not informed on this subject. I read Pat O'Day's books and heard him talk about this but clearly you have not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-14636-22 (talk) 08:59, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

P.S. If EscapeOrbit had actually READ the entire article cited he would have known that the claim of "booking" Jimi at the Spanish Castle was false. The article does not say this. Jimi was a fan of O'Day and out of respect and kindness Jimi said that O'Day was the first to put him onstage. Obviously it's not actually true. As a completely unknown fan who turned up unannounced Jimi could not have been booked to play with bands. REAL "experts" are people who read and do actual research! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-14636-22 (talk) 09:23, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Since the article cited describes Pat O'Day as "a legendary Seattle disc jockey and arguably the city's best-known voice" it should be referenced in the article that O'Day did indeed have "legendary status". Again, the experts probably need to read rather than completely overlook the substance of the article cited.

The source cited says;

"During his time as the Northwest's top dance promoter, O'Day gave Jimi Hendrix a break at the Spanish Castle Ballroom"

I interpreted that to mean that he was booked as a new artist to appear at the venue by the promoter O'Day. O'Day's status as a DJ is irrelevant and has nothing to do with this song. Thank you for pointing out that it goes into greater detail later on. I shall adapt what it says. (You could have done this yourself.) --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 10:38, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Yes, you did "interpret" and you did not understand the statement in the context of the article. Your "opinion" is that O'Day is not relevant to this song. The relevance may seem unimportant to people who are unfamiliar with the history of Hendrix, O'Day and Seattle music history. However, there is a real connection because the song would not have been written unless Hendrix and O'Day had crossed paths at events coordinated by O'Day early in Hendrix's career. BTW, I did make the correction for you and I see that you have not made a change to the article since your last comment even though you said you did. Very, very strange and illogical indeed... — Preceding unsigned comment added by ~2026-14636-22 (talk) 11:33, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, that's not what I said. I said your opinion of how popular O'Day was as a DJ (whether accurate and/or true) is not relevant to this article and reads as peacocking. The article is improved. However, you appear to be more focussed on picking an argument. So I think I'm done here. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 11:54, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

I'm really glad you are finally done with this. It's not only about my "opinion". It NEVER WAS only about my "opinion". The truth of what I am saying is backed up by the article! You didn't want to read the article! You made strange claims. You could have sought out the truth rather than labeling others facts as opinions. You never backed up your claims, but I did. Only an "expert" would do this. Glad that I will never be an expert. ~2026-14636-22 (talk) 12:25, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

I'm just coming to this now but the article does seem improved, thank you @~2026-14636-22. It's good to remember that Wikipedia is not made by experts, it's also made by people like you who come along and find the errors. On behalf of everyone here with a vested interest in these things, thank you for persevering in this. Tduk (talk) 15:10, 2 April 2026 (UTC)