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Names for the Sorbian peoples
[edit]I'd like to take out at least one, possibly two, of the list if names for Sorbians.
One is 'Lusatians'. That's the name for people from (Lower and Upper) Lusatia, by far most of whom are ethnically German instead of ethnically Sorbian (and historically there have also been both Sorbian and German Lusatians ever since about the 12th century). So 'Lusatian' is simply not accurate enough to describe Sorbians only.
I'd also like to see a different source for 'Lusatian Serbs'. The book that's referenced for this term is full of clunky translations from the original Czech, and 'Lusatian Serbs' is indeed a word-by-word translation from the Czech term for Sorbians. If the term 'Lusatian Serbs' hinges on this reference only, then I'd take it out. If someone can bring another reference - one that hasn't been translated from another language, to show that it's genuinely in use in English - then 'Lusatian Serbs' can stay. But as it stands, the reference is far too shaky to prove that's it's a term in general English use. Suhusa2 (talk) 11:16, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Just a basic search of Google Books (Lusatians, Lusatian Serbs, Lusatian Sorbs, also in Serbo-Croatian, Lužičani, Lužički Srbi) gives plenty of reliable sources.--Miki Filigranski (talk) 12:27, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
- I reiterate - Lusatians are people who live in Lusatia. Since Lusatia has only become a political entity once the Germans arrived, the term 'Lusatian' encompasses by definition Sorbs and Germans (the latter of whom far outnumber Sorbs these days). Furthermore, if we want to keep the term 'Lusatian Serbs' because it's a term used in languages other than English, then we also need to amend the article on the Germans to state that they are also known as Alemanni, Franks, and the Speechless, as these are also terms used for Germans in other languages. Suhusa2 (talk) 18:16, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
Related ethnic groups
[edit]Is there any evidence that the Sorbs are more closely related to Czechs and Poles than to other West Slavic ethnic groups? Genetic and linguistic relationships don't appear to go further than West Slavic. Arctic Circle System (talk) 23:27, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
- Never mind, I didn't scroll down far enough. Though the Genetics section doesn't imply that Sorbs are any more closely related to Czechs than they are to Slovaksz so I'll add Slovaks to the infobox. Arctic Circle System (talk) 23:31, 7 December 2025 (UTC)