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Somaliwood
[edit]Someone should mention Somaliwood in Columbus, Ohio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.5.253.214 (talk) 16:50, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Incorrect number of Somali's living in Minnesota
[edit]Can we get an updated source for the number of Somali's living in Minnesota. I read that the number was 50,000, and this is not consistent with 25,000. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.221.149.129 (talk) 21:23, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
I am sure it is somewhere between 200-300k now. 50k is like the Somali population in Western Washington.
The problem is that the american-born and non-Somali born population dwarf that of Somali-born Somali persons, especially since he avg. Somali family has around 4 children or so, alongside a large refugee-born population of 20-somethings who grew up stateside.
Can anyone find any verifiably correct data for this?
Thanks,
66.25.215.184 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:11, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Problems
[edit]Hello, Kohelet. The paragraphs you have posted do not meet NPOV. They are unreliable and give undue weight as well. Is there a COI on your part? 26oo (talk) 01:24, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
- Undue weight and pov indeed. There also would appear to be a conflict of interest on this username's part. Note his/her various contributions to far right-related pages, and his/her attempts to use a partisan website (c.f. , ). Middayexpress (talk) 12:05, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
Also, why is this even an entry? There are 196 countries in the world, and if we allowed an entry for each from-to migration pair, we'd have 2n(n-1) or 2*196(196-1)=76,440 entries. The preceding 2 accounts for the fact that, say, Tibetan-Taiwanese aren't the same as Taiwan-Tibetans. You have two legitimate entities, here: Somalia, where you can discuss Somalis who have immigrated to other countries and why, as well as Immigration to the United States, where you can differentiate notable groups of immigrants to the United States. Otherwise, you should prepare yourself to deal with Togon-Latvians, Burundian-Wallis and Futunans, and Nauruan-Comorosans. Seriously, Wikipedia, I think you're heading down the wrong 76,440 road, here. It's much easier and far more encyclopedic to have 392 entries than 76,440.Clepsydrae (talk) 23:02, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Paragraph
[edit]The "discrimination" paragraph is undue. It alludes to isolated incidents, some dating back 13 years. Several of the links are also dead. Middayexpress (talk) 12:05, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
ISIS
[edit]User Soupforone deleted the following, sourced from the StarTrbune in 2014, the main newspaper in Minnesota, and from the Associated Press in 2016, with the excuse that WP:Notnewspaper. Of course not a newspaper!; however, why the blanking out of what is an important issue for the Somali American community?
Furthermore, this issue dovetails/contrasts with the next sentence: "according to intelligence officials, fewer expatriates were joining the group's ranks by late 2013" - how can it not be encyclopaedic to have a diverse point of views?
In April 2016, the Associated Press reported about 10 Minnesota men who "held secret meetings and plotted to join the Islamic State."[1][2]
XavierItzm (talk) 19:14, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
As per WP:NOTNEWSPAPER, a handful of men reportedly meeting to join some political militant group(s) is news fodder. It hardly encapsulates the community at large - "Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events. While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion." Wikinews is there for that. The macro here is that some individuals attempted to join Al-Shabaab and fewer still ISIS . This is already noted. Soupforone (talk) 02:24, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
References
- ↑ Forliti, Amy (21 April 2016). "Feds: Minnesota men spoke of terrorist attacks in US". Associated Press - The Big Story. AP. Retrieved 1 May 2016.
Prosecutors have said they were part of a group of friends in Minnesota's Somali community who held secret meetings and plotted to join the Islamic State group.
- ↑ Montemayor, Stephen (14 April 2014). "Twin Cities ISIL recruit takes late plea deal after new evidence emerges". StarTribune. Retrieved 1 May 2016.
Farah, 20, admitted to conspiring to provide material support to the Islamic State
"Notable People"
[edit]Some of them appear to be Somalians, not Somali-Americans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.83.36.216 (talk) 18:42, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- I fear editors might have brushed over this comment as 'bad faith', but they appear to be correct from the pages that don't specify "Somali-American" I've looked at :
- - Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed - Was American but renounced Citizenship in 2017.
- - Dahir Adan Elmi - From Wikipedia and what I've google searched appears to have no relation to the US.
- - Ali Khalif Galaydh - Appears to have taught in America but only mention I could find of relation to potential Residence was this "Prime Minister Ali Khalif Galaydh of Somalia was ousted from power over the weekend, as he was leaving Minnesota after a family visit" - http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/200110/29_druley_somalia-m/ . But it also states "So Galaydh returned to his war-torn homeland for the first time since 1982 with his U.S. education. When Galaydh was appointed prime minister, his wife Mahamed and the couple's children moved to Owatonna, home to her family and a large Somali population." I think the use of the terms "U.S. education" and "home to her family" rather than stating HIS family indicates a lack of Citizenship.
- - Abdinur Sheikh Mohamed - Doesn't say if American, but is possibly still teaching in Ohio.
- - Abdirahman Duale Beyle - Went to two Universities in Wisconsin but "is currently serving as Minister of Finance of Somalia." So presumably not American.
- - Hodan Ahmed - Is a Senior Program Officer at National Democratic Institute although the Wikipedia article for the Organization states "While headquartered in Washington, D.C., NDI operates exclusively outside of the United States".
- - There are others that might not be legitimately Somali-American either.
- Many are Civil War Generals or leaders and Social Activists, although not uncommon for 'Notable Somalians' in English-speaking Wikipedia given the Country involved and United States involvement with their government (similar to Cuban-Americans). Although the page is currently protected it might have had "Bad Faith" edits prior to protection, especially considering how many of the Pages don't specify "American Citizenship" and simply say "Somali" not even "Somali-Born".
- I think either the Section needs updated or the individual Pages do. ~2026-15249-6 (talk) 07:53, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- Any update on this? Mystikalman (talk) 05:55, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
RELIGION
[edit]According to the Federal Ministry of Endowments and Religious Affairs, more than 99 percent of the population is Sunni Muslim. 2600:100A:B016:8272:0:57:2064:2E01 (talk) 20:06, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- More than 99 per cent of the population of Somalia, or of Somali Americans? Cordless Larry (talk) 20:18, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Anti-allophone?
[edit]In the "Somaliphobia" section, the term anti-allophone is used, when referencing a book passage about Somalis in Lewiston, ME. However, it isn't directly quoted. The issue is that allophone is not a term used in the U.S. at all. It is a term used in Canada to contrast with Anglophones and Francophones. It means non-English or French speakers. Here, I guess it is meant to mean non-English speakers, perhaps, but that is not the definition of the word. Jskmap (talk) 06:51, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
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