Talk:Small Talk

Requested move 2 August 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:28, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

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Small talk (disambiguation) → Small Talk – There are 19 entries listed upon the Small talk (disambiguation) page and 17 of those do indeed use uppercase "T" in "Talk". Users who type the uppercase "Small Talk" while researching the lowercase "small talk" would continue to find the lowercase form listed, in its current unchanged form, at top of the renamed Small Talk disambiguation page. A recent analogous nomination (Haunted house (disambiguation) → Haunted House) was discussed at Talk:Haunted House (disambiguation)#Requested move 1 July 2025. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:02, 2 August 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPath^talk 02:25, 9 August 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPath^talk 05:13, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom and WP:DABNAME. "Small Talk" is the ambiguous term; small talk is not ambiguous. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:29, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
• Move to Small Talk (disambiguation). I see no reason to add unnecessary ambiguity. We are meant to be helping our users. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:41, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
• Comment. In recent nominations of this nature, such as this one or Haunted house (disambiguation) → Haunted House (at Talk:Haunted House (disambiguation)#Requested move 1 July 2025), "(disambiguation)" was appended, thus signifying a primary topic. On the other hand, Turf war → Turf War (at Talk:Turf War (TV series)#Requested move 12 July 2025), which has no entry for the lowercase form, was accepted without a primary topic, however Best man → Best Man (at Talk:Best Man#Requested move 11 June 2025), which also has no entry for the lowercase form, was likewise accepted, but engendered discussion because the lowercase Best man redirects to Groomsman and was thus contended to be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Tour of duty/Tour of Duty at Talk:Tour of Duty (TV series)#Requested move 10 June 2025 also struggled to arrive a consensus. For the record and, arguably, per WP:CONSISTENT, below is a selected list of 12 other dab page main title headers without the parenthetical qualifier "(disambiguation)":

Brand new is not the primary topic of the Brand New disambiguation page.
Cigarette girl is not the primary topic of the Cigarette Girl disambiguation page.
Escape velocity is not the primary topic of the Escape Velocity disambiguation page.
Friendly fire is not the primary topic of the Friendly Fire disambiguation page.
Home improvement is not the primary topic of the Home Improvement disambiguation page.
Police academy is not the primary topic of the Police Academy disambiguation page.
Red meat is not the primary topic of the Red Meat disambiguation page.
Saddle tramp is not the primary topic of the Saddle Tramp disambiguation page.
Significant other is not the primary topic of the Significant Other disambiguation page.
Total war is not the primary topic of the Total War disambiguation page.
Union station is not the primary topic of the Union Station disambiguation page.
Witch doctor is not the primary topic of the Witch Doctor disambiguation page.

There are exceptions, such as Iron maiden and Iron Maiden, the primary topic of the uppercase "M" Iron Maiden (disambiguation) page. User:Andrewa has an extended list and examination of related issues at User talk:Andrewa/P T examples and scenarios. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:22, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support WP:POINTy opinions aside, this is a pretty straightforward WP:DIFFCAPS example. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:57, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:DABNAME. Title of the disambiguation page should be sentence case since the phrase is not always a proper name. Steel1943 (talk) 23:45, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Standard WP:DIFFCAPS case; small talk may have a primary topic but "Small Talk" does not. Almost everything on the DAB page is a piece of media and capitalized as such, and small talk can still be linked from the DAB page's lead sentence even if the page is retitled, as can be seen in the example cases listed above. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 16:11, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.