Talk:Skyquake

Lakes

I don't think Seneca and Cayuga are "two of the world's larger and deepest lakes"... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.18.41.97 (talk) 11:40, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Weather

I added the ongoing weather tag due to this currently happening at random throughout the world. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TopsailHS (talk • contribs) 22:53:20, August 19, 2007 (UTC).

And I removed it, because it is not an appropriate usage. The template is intended for a single event that is ongoing, not a recurring event like this. It would be just as inappropriate on thunderstorm for example. Dhaluza 23:36, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

References

Regarding the only reference, (Appletons' Annual Cyclopaedia and Register of Important Events. 1899. p. 440), there is no reference to any mistpouffer. I would like to delete this reference. Sarah.pingrey 23:27, 17 July 2010.

Just to mention, a Google Books search finds many references to mistpouffers - this is a different spelling - should it be substituted? 71.23.209.131 (talk) 05:15, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

"The term originating in Seneca, Georgia, USA during the country's civil war..." has no reference. I believe that the term originated in James Fennimore Cooper's "Lake Gun". What is "(Johnson 5)" doing there? I would like to delete much of this paragraph and move some information up to the main paragraph. Sarah.pingrey 23:32, 17 July 2010.

Skyquakes

Are mistpouffers related to skyquakes? It has surprised me to not find anything about skyquakes in Wikipedia. --uKER (talk) 21:40, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

How do you explain the car alarms and barking when you are next to a lake, not to mention in the middle of the desert! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobby allan (talk • contribs) 15:27, 26 July 2015‎ (UTC)

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Notes and Queries

This may count as OR - but in the above publication, 5th series vol 6, 11 November 1876 p 389 and vol 7, February 3 1877, p 94 there are articles on these sounds, with reference to recent notes by Mr Knox Wigat. Jackiespeel (talk) 16:28, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Linkspam

I removed all of this stuff from the External Links section. Being so tangential to the subject of matter, I'd say if anything, they should be used as sources. I'm leaving them here in case there's anything of value to be taken from them.

• The Guns of Barisal and Anomalous Sound Propagation
• www.astronomycafe.net
• New Lands: A Hypertext Edition of Charles Hoy Fort's Book: Account of Barisal guns observed in 1874, and of some meteorite impacts
• Account of Lake Guns - 1800's
• Le son du Soleil fait résonner la Terre ! (in French)
• Sound and Light Phenomena: a Study of Historical and Modern Occurrences
• What are all those booms and rumbling about?

--uKER (talk) 16:02, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Hypotheses

Should we clean up this section? I feel like there should be a distinction between legitimate hypotheses of the scientific community and "it's probably Dragons or UFOs". --RRorg (talk) 09:56, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

I have cleaned up this section to reflect more current ideas and include scientific references. Idoubtit00 (talk) 19:02, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Local names

should be removed if there isn't a source. I have verified (the easy way: google search + Ngram viewer) that there are no occurrences of "cielmoto" in Spanish or "bombe(s) de mer" and "canon de mer" in French, except for things that are entirely unrelated or direct quotes of this page.

The "verification needed" warning is insufficient, and this page is a source of misinformation, as demonstrated by this widely-viewed video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWXESGggpLY — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.173.62.130 (talk) 15:39, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Aerosol Bio Ordinance

Could it be aerosol cannisters of bio weapons?

Not of our own , but from a likely adversary? 184.156.42.242 (talk) 17:17, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

no 2601:85:C101:C9D0:7D36:1536:6507:1B4B (talk) 23:55, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Subject: Correction of Regional Terminology for the Philippines (Removal of "Retumbos")

Proposed Change:

In the section listing regional names for skyquakes, remove the Spanish word "retumbos" from the Philippines entry and replace it with the accurate, native terms "daguhob" and "dagundong".

Justification & Historical Context:

1. Linguistic Inaccuracy: The word "retumbos" is a Spanish term derived from the verb retumbar (to resound or boom). Spanish has no official or native status in the modern Philippines, and the word is not used by local populations to describe atmospheric phenomena.
2. Colonial Bias in Source Material: The inclusion of "retumbos" stems entirely from early 19th-century Spanish colonial meteorological logs (such as those from the Observatorio Meteorológico de Manila run by Jesuit priests). These archives recorded observations using Spanish terminology, completely ignoring the pre-existing native vocabulary of the archipelago.
3. True Native Nomenclature: Long before and long after Spanish colonial presence, local Philippine languages have maintained precise, deep vocabulary for these acoustic phenomena:
   • Daguhob (Visayan / Waray / Hiligaynon): An archaic and regional term explicitly defining an indistinct, deep, roaring, or rumbling sound in the sky or atmosphere.
   • Dagundong (Tagalog): A widely used term for a heavy, low-frequency reverberation or subterranean/atmospheric boom that causes physical vibrations.
   • Kulog na walang ulan (General Tagalog): Literally translating to "thunder without rain," describing unexplained atmospheric booms under clear skies.

Conclusion:

Continuing to use a Spanish colonial descriptor to categorize a phenomenon in a sovereign, non-Spanish-speaking nation is factually incorrect and culturally erasive. The encyclopedic record must be updated to prioritize authentic, indigenous terminology over obsolete 19th-century colonial placeholders. ~2026-40923-45 (talk) 08:35, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

If you can provide a reliable source confirming the use of the other terms you mentioned then there will be no problem with adding them to the article. As for the word "retumbos", you seem to be saying that it does have a history of use, but you don't wish the fact to be recorded here, because you prefer to delete information relating to the colonial history of the country. Is that a correct understanding of what you are saying? JBW (talk) 08:52, 23 July 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for the guidance, JBW. To clarify, the objective is not to erase or censor the historical footprint of the Spanish colonial administration, but rather to ensure encyclopedic precision and avoid a linguistic fallacy.

Currently, the Skyquake article incorrectly implies that "retumbos" is a regional name naturally native to or used by the modern population of the Philippines. In reality, "retumbos" is a Spanish lexical term utilized strictly within historical European archives—specifically the 19th-century logs of the Observatorio Meteorológico de Manila (run by Spanish Jesuit meteorologists).

To ensure complete accuracy, I propose keeping the mention of "retumbos" but explicitly contextualizing it as the historical Spanish archival term, while simultaneously adding the authentic native terms used by the local populations.

For verification of the native terms:

1. Dagundong (Tagalog): Verified via the UP Diksiyonaryong Filipino (University of the Philippines Sentro ng Wikang Filipino), denoting a heavy, deep, low-frequency atmospheric or subterranean reverberation.

2. Daguhob (Visayan/Waray): Verified via regional linguistic records such as George Dewey Tramp’s Waray-English Dictionary (1991) and John U. Wolff’s A Dictionary of Cebuano Visayan (1972), defining an indistinct, low, roaring acoustic phenomenon of the sky or water.

I will update the section to reflect both the historical colonial records and the indigenous terminology to provide a complete, neutral, and accurate overview. ~2026-40923-45 (talk) 15:36, 23 July 2026 (UTC)