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Latest comment: 8 months ago by Mirrordor in topic Shang oracular script graphs

Connection with biblical God.

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There is a theory that the ancient Chinese originally worshipped God of the bible and there is a connection between Shangdi and El Shaddai (one of the names of God in the bible). Shangdi worshippers believed in the one God, rejected idolatry etc… [Started discussion in talk page as wanted to know other people’s take: sources to follow.] 150.143.179.26 (talk) 09:54, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I don't think that any serious expert would support this idea. There is no real evidence of contacts between the ancient Chinese and the Hebrews. Sectarian crackpot stuff, akin to the 'theory' that the Native Americans are a lost tribe of Israel - Christians 'seeing' their Christian stuff everywhere.--62.73.72.101 (talk) 05:20, 8 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Didier 2009

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Too much of the article just retells, in detail, the claims and reasonings of J. C. Didier (2009), presenting them as the truth. This is just one author and one publication - a citation of it is not evidence that most or even many Sinologists have accepted his arguments as convincing and agree with his specific theories. Thus, such a high degree of reliance on them seems like a case of undue weight. 62.73.72.101 (talk) 05:30, 8 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Not true. This article has a number cited a number of sources. Azuredivay (talk) 19:16, 8 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Shang oracular script graphs

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The oracular graphs in the picture did not represent the supreme god, at least not originally at the time they were invented on the oracle bones and tortoise shells. They were the pictograms of a bundle or firewood used in sacrificial ceremonies; they also stood for the name of one type of sacrifice. They were borrowed (as loangraphs) later on in bronze script for the homophonous /di/ which means god or king.@[[User:|Mirrordor]] Mirrordor (talk) 09:03, 19 November 2025 (UTC)Reply