Talk:Seven Samurai/GA1
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Nominator: Plifal (talk · contribs) 13:31, 29 January 2026 (UTC)
Reviewer: A.Cython (talk · contribs) 21:22, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
I will review this one, could not resist the temptation (one of my favorite movies). I will need up to seven days to provide comments. A.Cython(talk) 21:22, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
Overall, I truly enjoyed reading the article, it is ready for GA once some minor fixes are done. My comments are presented below. A.Cython(talk) 23:44, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- A.Cython, thank you very much! i should have addressed your points.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
Various
[edit]- No edit war
- Neutral
- Figures are ok with appropriate justifications for copyright use. Figure caption are appropriate
- No copyright violation detected (high numbers up to 44% in Earwig's Copyvio Detector were actors' names and quotes)
Prose
[edit]- In the process they came across comma after "process"
- i knew being british would come back to bite me on these commas. done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- ran out of money, Toho eventually replace comma with a full stop
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- At Venice Kurosawa won the comma after Venice
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- In the United States the film grossed comma after the States
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- it as [[masterpiece|a masterpiece]] change to "it as a [[masterpiece]]"
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- to action being remade and reiterated upon a large number of times, most notably the 1960 film change to "to action remade and reiterated numerous times, most notably in the 1960 film"
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- Topics of discussion focus on the morality and heroism of the samurai change to "Discussions focus on the morality and heroism of the samurai"
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- houses must evacuate, when they dissent he chastises → "houses must evacuate. When they dissent, he chastises"
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- with many killed while the → "with many killed, while the" (comma)
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- including on the way they would talk remove "on"
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- inexperience on film productions change "on" → in
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- but camerman Asakazu fix spelling
- done. for some reason i always make this mistake.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- Every evening Kurosawa would dine comma after evening
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- be admitted to hospital to recover add "the" before hospital
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- Kurosawa's films which had traditionally add comma before which
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- depiction of environment have add "the" before the environment
- not done. in this instance environment is being used to indicate an abstract category.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- 155 minutes, this was then edited → "155 minutes, which was then edited"
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- New York, the film grossed $68,000 in total. → "New York, it grossed $68,000."
- done.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- At "Notes" section, make sure every entry end with a full stop.
- not done. per MOS:CAPFRAG which was told to me during my various reviews for high and low (1963), actually some of those should not have full stops (which i dislike as a rule but oh well).--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
Sources
[edit]- please specify which episode: an episode of The Clone Wars
- the source doesn't and we don't have an article on it, so i feel doing so may be WP:UNDUE.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- Spot checked the following: 43, 118, 135, 148, 156, 201
- thank you kindly!--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
Other (semi-optional)
[edit]- The lead length is 546 words. Keep in mind that MOS:LEADLENGTH states The leads in most featured articles contain about 250 to 400 words. Some may argue that it is too long and place annoying tags. I have certainly experienced this frustration. Any trimming would be beneficial not only for GA but also for FA later on. I also provide some hints:
- Avoid repetition, for example considered to be one of the greatest films ever made and seen scholars and reviewers praise it as a masterpiece. Is it not the same thing?
- where it was again recut to 141 minutes. Is this essential? Not to mention "recut" does not make sense since you have not mentioned anything about 141 mins above.
- i appreciate these examples, and have cut down some of the lead text to 496 words. i would just say though that rosa parks (also a level 4 vital article and featured) has a lead length of 505 words, and given the scope of this topic, i think it's ok if it goes over a bit. i decided to keep the masterpiece phrasing as it's supposed to juxtapose contemporary and later critical reception. plus i think there are examples of films being considered "a masterpiece" without them being "one of the greates [x] of all time". while overlapping they do feel qualitively different to my mind.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- Ah... I made this argument for the article that I was working on but it did not fly as they wanted 400ish words, but I am not one of them. The cuts you made as sufficient for me.A.Cython(talk) 17:35, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- i appreciate these examples, and have cut down some of the lead text to 496 words. i would just say though that rosa parks (also a level 4 vital article and featured) has a lead length of 505 words, and given the scope of this topic, i think it's ok if it goes over a bit. i decided to keep the masterpiece phrasing as it's supposed to juxtapose contemporary and later critical reception. plus i think there are examples of films being considered "a masterpiece" without them being "one of the greates [x] of all time". while overlapping they do feel qualitively different to my mind.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- I do not have the time to do a thorough review search beyond what I did above and so I have to rely on memory of things (not necessarily reliable). My main understanding of the key conceptual achievement of Kurosawa was that the movie was capturing the public sentiment. The Japanese society was in shock after their loss and a decade of US occupation, but also struggling to make the transition from the military society prior the war to a new one. Seven samurai's central theme captured this transition, i.e., the collapse of the military class but this time in the samurai era. This entailed several parallels, ex-military people had hard time finding a job but still had a (wounded) national pride and having a bittersweet ending where the future belongs to their young people, represented by the farmers in the film. This concept is not as clearly presented. So providing the context of the movie (provided that there are WP:RS) in a little more coherent way, it would help. Though this request is more at FA than GA levels, so I leave it up to you.
- you saying this does ring a bell, and i agree this is a valid analysis of the film, but while the article somewhat gestures towards that (in terms of audiences still wanting jidaigeki films, metaphors for japanese militarism) it doesn't really come up as a sustained motif in formal analyses.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- I understand and this was the reading that I got, but the movie did not became a masterpiece because it was just a war movie. Context matters. It is one of the few movies that was made by the losers of the war. Even the Germans have not made a movie of this caliber at such short temporal distance from the war (Das boot was made in 1981 and had much more narrow focus). It is also perhaps an explanation why the director is recognized more in abroad than at his home country. My comment is to supplement (a couple lines would had been sufficient) not replace what you have done. Anyhow, I think this is a topic to expand/discuss at the FA review. For GA what you have is sufficient.A.Cython(talk) 17:35, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- you saying this does ring a bell, and i agree this is a valid analysis of the film, but while the article somewhat gestures towards that (in terms of audiences still wanting jidaigeki films, metaphors for japanese militarism) it doesn't really come up as a sustained motif in formal analyses.--Plifal (talk) 09:06, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
Final comments
[edit]Thank you for making the changes based on the above comments. Congratulations for bringing a critically acclaimed movie to GA status! Great job, now where is my popcorn... A.Cython(talk) 17:35, 13 February 2026 (UTC)