Talk:Selichot

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I believe that a link to this would fall under section 2 of WP:ELYES.

I have a COI (I work for Sefaria). My team has discussed it on WikiProject:Judaism and it has been adjudicated and resolved favorably at COIN#Sefaria_requested_edits.

Links should be to

ChavaErica (talk) 20:41, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Reply 5-AUG-2019

  Edit request implemented    Spintendo  23:07, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

@Spintendo: Thank you! ChavaErica (talk) 14:41, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Suggestion: explain the meanings of 4 acronyms in [the section about] "Selichot rites"

The section of this article called "Selichot rites" contains a large table, with 9 columns. The column headings for the "even-numbered" columns (the second, the fourth, etc.) each have a "sub-" heading that is displayed as "Day".

Some of the entries in those "even-numbered" ["Day"] columns contain acronyms, such as: RH, YK, FG, and TDR.

I suggest that some clarification should be added, to enable the reader to find out -- if necessary -- what the meanings of those acronyms are (especially "FG" -- meaning "Tzom Gedaliah", or the "Fast of Gedaliah" -- and "TDR" -- meaning [the] "Asseret Yemei HaTeshuvah" -- that is, the "Ten Days of Repentance").

For completeness, it might "also" be advisable to explain the meanings of the acronyms 'RH' and 'YK' (despite the fact that those are probably even more likely to be ... already known to the reader).

There is a good chance that the typical reader of this article will already know that "RH" means "Rosh Hashanah" (the Jewish New Year, at the beginning of the ten days of penitence), and that "YK" means Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement on the 10th day of Tishrei).

However, I believe, based upon some -- (perhaps unscientific) -- anecdotal evidence, that the chances are greater that the reader will have forgotten the meanings -- if he ever knew them -- of "FG" and "TDR".
So -- ('IMHO') -- explaining those two -- "FG" and "TDR" -- is more important than explaining the meanings of "RH" and "YK".
But it would probably be OK -- and, not very difficult -- ! -- to explain all 4 of them. (In the article ... not just here, on the "Talk:" page.)

Any comments?

Thanks for listening. Mike Schwartz (talk) 00:17, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

If you order each rite, the first time the abbreviation appears, you see a blue link to the entry giving its explanation. Drkazmer ^{Just tell me...} 16:19, 13 July 2026 (UTC)

Another idea

Is it just me? or, is the comment

(page numbers in square brackets):

misleading and -- in fact -- incorrect? It appears to me, that the actual page numbers, when they are shown at all, are

• [a] not in square brackets,

and

• [b] each appear after a colon, that is typically always after a clickable link -- ["displayed" as a superscript number in square brackets] -- and that the clickable link (before the colon) is for a footnote! (right?)

My invitation (or "subsection name") above -- where it says "Any comments?" -- applies as well to this "add-on" (added) sub-section. --Mike Schwartz (talk) 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

The number in the square brackets refers to the source identifier at the bottom of the page. See the documentation of the {{rp}} template. Drkazmer ^{Just tell me...} 17:10, 13 July 2026 (UTC)

References

Selichot rites table

Dear Potential Editors,

As the table summarising the different selichot rites is both very complex and involved extensive research, if you have any suggestions or want to propose additions, please contact me first through my talk page. I'm happy to collaborate with other users and share my source spreadsheet, but please avoid adding incomplete or confusing pieces of code. For experimenting there is your user page.

Drkazmer ^{Just tell me...} 17:18, 13 July 2026 (UTC)