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Latest comment: 10 months ago by WMrapids in topic Recent edit: Far-right

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 01:21, 24 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Far-right label of Vox party

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@Googleguy007 Regarding whether we call it "far-right political party Vox" in this article, or "national-conservative political party Vox", and your comments when edit-warring with my edits.

You are seemingly making these edits solely on your belief that leftists are targeting this page, as shown in your last revision. Please, don't misrepresent my comments, I said IMHO national conservative is precise and broad description of Vox ideological positions, while far right (Far-right politics, or right-wing extremism as corresponding article calls it) is just favorite tag of left-wing activists to claim somebody is nazi.

“National Conservatism” is a less known descriptor that only describes a subset of Voxs beliefs, far-right describes them broadly If "national conservatism" is a less known descriptor to you, perhaps you should start educating yourself, at least read the corresponding article, prior to engaging into edit-warring.

If you just read "national conservatism" and "far-right" article side-by-side, you'll see that the former one actually talks about ideological points; and the later one just goes right away into claiming a group described as "far-right" is extremist, radical, authoritarian, heir of fascism, nazism, and falangism, chauvinist, xenophobe, theocrate, rascist thus it does not describe any particular ideology, it just works as an alias for all these insults. Birdofpreyru (talk) 15:32, 29 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Cry about it. That’s how it’s describe by the vast majority of reliable sources, that’s how it’s going to be described. Googleguy007 (talk) 15:34, 29 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
That's how it is described by selected "reliable" left-wing sources. Birdofpreyru (talk) 15:37, 29 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
If you want to contest a sources reliability you can do it at perennial sources, this isn’t the place to complain about “left wing bias”. Googleguy007 (talk) 16:37, 29 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Sources are fine, but you are interpreting them in a stupid way, because a lack of education =D Birdofpreyru (talk) 01:15, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

spanish phrase not explained

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What's the point of not explaining what the Spanish phrase means? " At this time, he was known in Spain as "El que te focka, el que te parte la boca"." It's something explicit but either you explain ot delete it. 2A01:599:C1B:B953:C8E2:E66F:437C:781 (talk) 14:36, 8 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Western Sahara

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This IP edit to Abascal's political position was added in July 2023, with no source, and not even challenged for 2.5 years until now.

It doesn't pass the smell test that Abascal seeks for the Sahrawi people to be reintegrated into Spanish authority, thus adding thousands of Muslim Arabs to the country. Unless the enemy of his enemy (Morocco) is his friend. There was something rather WP:POV about the edit as well, in that it referred to the present-day entity as the Spanish Sahara - something I am astonished that nobody challenged, particularly by how on-it Moroccan IPs usually are about this issue. Unknown Temptation (talk) 16:15, 9 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Recent edit: Far-right

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Hello! In an April 2025 edit, an IP user removed the description of Vox being far-right. Since 2023, the party has been described as far-right on its own article. Currently in Spanish Wikipedia, it says "He has been described as an ultra-conservative politician and far right" ("Ha sido descrito como un político ultraconservador​ y de extrema derecha.") Because of the previous consensus and his description in Spanish Wikipedia, I placed the description back in this article. If there are any concerns, please ping me so we can figure it out! WMrapids (talk) 05:01, 24 September 2025 (UTC)Reply