Talk:Samthar State
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Gurjars
[edit source]But the Royal family of Samthar calls themselves Gurjars. khatana clan
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samthar 2607:FEA8:C80:4560:D944:14E7:CDA2:B51 (talk) 14:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
described as Gurjar!
[edit source]Requested correction regarding Samthar ruling dynasty
[edit source]I would like to request a review of the section discussing the ruling dynasty of Samthar State, as the current wording appears inconsistent with several historical and official published sources.
The article presently states that the ruling family belonged to the Bar Gujar dynasty of Rajputs. However, multiple historical references appear to identify the Samthar ruling house as Gurjar.
The following sources may be relevant:
• Alexander Cunningham, Archaeological Survey of India Reports, Vol. 1–11 (1862–1865; 1871–1878), p. 71.
• Sir Roper Lethbridge, The Golden Book of India (1893), p. 745.
• Memoranda on Native States in India (Superintendent Government Printing, Calcutta, 1911), p. 55.
• The Hind Rajasthan: Annals of the Native States of India (1896), p. 750.
• The Sphere, 28 May 1938 issue, identifying H.H. Maharaja Sir Bir Singh Judev Khatana Bahadur of Samthar.
• Robert Henry Wallace, Service and Adventure with the Khakee Ressalah; or, Meerut Volunteer Horse, during the Mutinies of 1857–58.
• John Murray (London), The Historical Record of the Imperial Visit to India, 1911.
• Sahifa-e-Zarrin (1902).
These sources appear to describe or identify the Samthar ruling family as Gurjar, while some records also use the designation “Khatana” in reference to members of the ruling house.
Suggested neutral wording:
"Several historical and official publications describe the ruling family of Samthar State as Gurjar, including works by Alexander Cunningham and colonial-era administrative records."
I request that the current wording be reviewed in light of these published sources and updated in accordance with Wikipedia's policies on verifiability, neutrality, and reliable sourcing.
Thank you.
Signature: XaiverN9tewWike XaiverN9tewWike (talk) 10:32, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
- older records state them as belonging to the "Gurjar Tribe/ agricultural Gujar caste" XaiverN9tewWike (talk) 11:09, 15 May 2026 (UTC)
Incorrect Clan and Community Attribution of the Samthar Ruling House
[edit source]I would like to respectfully request a review of the section discussing the ruling dynasty of Samthar State, as the current wording appears to be inconsistent with several historical records and published sources. Rana Vidhyut Singh (talk) 18:04, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 June 2026
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The Golden Book of India A Genealogical and Biographical Dictionary of the Ruling Princes, Chiefs, Nobles, and Other Personages, Titled Or Decorated, of the Indian Empire By Sir Roper Lethbridge · 1893 Page number 475 paragraph number six mentions Maharaja Chhatar Singh Bahadur raja of samthar state belongs to Gujar (Hindu) tribe ~2026-37318-56 (talk) 09:52, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Day Creature (talk) 05:46, 1 July 2026 (UTC)