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[edit]CHaracter 韓 meaning great??? it means just Korea! and in older times in China this character had meaning of some device to make stuff with water! look at definition at zhongwen com
Note that the first character in "英國" has a meaning that has something to do with flowers and being distinguished. However, "England" does not mean "land of flowers" or "land of distinction" in English. I guess Britishers should just be glad that the Chinese did not choose to transliterate England using the "ying" that means "zero" so that we'd end up with "ying guo" meaning "land of zero" or "land of nothing"!
The explanation given in this article for the etymology of "han" suggests that "Han" is related to the word "Khan" (Qaan in Mongolian language). It might not be the right explanation, but it assumes (perhaps erroneously) that the word "han" which later came to mean and designate "Korea" was not originally of Chinese origin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Metonyme (talk • contribs) 10:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Dates for Samhan?
[edit]This article gives no dates for Samhan's foundation, it's leaders, or its decline. How can anyone get an idea of what years the Samhan existed without actual dates (or at the very least, circa, like circa 100BC.?) Thomas Lessman 20:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Yamatai in Kyūshū?
[edit]The location of Yamatai is not exactly clear, Kyūshū is just one theory, the other one locating Yamatai (Yama'ichi) in Kinai (Honshū). 24 April 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.147.73.55 (talk) 18:02, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
In English-language books and articles, the time period, as well as the three confederacies, are most often referred to as "Samhan." This follows written Korean (and perhaps Chinese)conventions, which differ from English. If the article referred to the confederacies as the "Three Han," I would agree that the term should be separated. However, for now, the article follows current trends in academic materials.
Three delicious Hams(??)
[edit]Has this article been vandalized, what does three delicious hams mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by D.Cozzys (talk • contribs) 16:12, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, it has been vandalized. I reverted the change. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 16:15, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
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Genuine Lack of Sources
[edit]This entire article is based on a single Chinese source? The foundations of this great country need to be a precise as possible. We cannot allow a lackluster approach to presentation of Korea's origins. How can we know if areas of occupation are disputed if we do not know by whom they are disputed?
First and second hand accounts are required to inform the reader of production capabilities in the villages. Sources referenced in the bottom should be added to the notes section providing a link to an abstract on a database such as EBSCOHost. In the legacy section, we are unclear as to which historians are being discussed.
Scope of Term "Han"
[edit]I am only now coming to this page for the first time, as I am in the early stages of learning Korean history. Upon reading the page as it exists today, it seems fairly apparent to me that it has been updated in recent years with a political agenda at work, which desires to emphasize that the name "han" (韓) has long been used historically to represent ALL of the Korean peninsula, rather than ONLY the southern part.
For example, an earlier edit of the page mentioned that the three "Samhan" confederacies of Mahan, Jinhan, and Byeonhan had been later incorporated into TWO OF THE THREE KINGDOMS, namely, Baekje and Silla, which together roughly correspond to the lands of modern South Korea. Now, the page no longer mentions "two of the three", but rather simply says that the lands of the confederacies were incorporated into the three kingdoms, implying that the successors to those "Samhan" cover the entire peninsula.
Also, the page goes out of its way to mention that the "Han" (韓) name which was applied by Emperor Gojong in the naming of Empire of Korea (founded in 1897) derives from the Three Kingdoms era (the lands of which covered the full peninsula) and *NOT* the Proto-Three Kingdoms era (the lands of which covered the southern part of the peninsula). It is obvious (to me, at least), that this was added to emphasize and justify that the "Han" name has long covered all of the peninsula, rather than just the southern part.
In other words, I suspect that those with a political agenda want to go out of their way to emphasize that "Han" has for a very long time represented the full peninsula (going continuously back to the Three Kingdoms era), rather than merely applying to the full peninsula only from the short period from 1897 (declaration of the Empire of Korea) to 1910 (start of the Japanese occupation), and again during the short few years between the end of Japanese occupation and the start of the Korea / US war.
I am certainly not qualified, and never will be, to provide a thorough, balanced, and accurate discussion of the use of "Han" throughout Korea's history. But I can see that the page as it exists today is less than professional and contains some obvious bias. It is my hope that someone who IS qualified will edit the page to make it more academic, less political, and consistent with current understandings.
In the meantime, I will edit the page in the coming days only to reduce redundancies and to improve the organization and flow. I will do my best to be as apolitical and neutral as possible with my edits. Lincstrunk (talk) 09:29, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
- Lincstrunk, do you have any sources to support your argument? Whie I have personally never edited this page, I highly doubt this page was edited with a political agenda. It is well attested that the Samhan had always had two meanings (the Samhan of the southern penninsula which is where the original term likely came from, and then the Samhan of the Three Kingdoms of Korea which were Goguryeo, Baekje and Silla). The article explictly states that "the name "Samhan" became synonymous with the Three Kingdoms of Korea." and that Silla (and later Goryeo) both used that term to claim they had unified the Three Kingdoms of Korea. Followup Edit:
- This specific section has a lot of Korean articles written by Koreans themselves on this transition of the term's meaning. "According to the Samguk sagi and Samguk yusa, Silla implemented a national policy, "Samhan Unification" (삼한일통; 三韓一統), to integrate Paekche and Goguryeo refugees. In 1982, a memorial stone dating back to 686 was discovered in Cheongju with an inscription: "The Three Han were unified and the domain was expanded."[1] During the Later Silla period, the concepts of Samhan as the ancient confederacies and the Three Kingdoms of Korea were merged.[1] In a letter to an imperial tutor of the Tang dynasty, Ch'oe Ch'i-wŏn equated Byeonhan to Paekche, Jinhan to Silla, and Mahan to Goguryeo.[2] By the Goryeo period, Samhan became a common name to refer to all of Korea.[1] In his Ten Mandates to his descendants, Wang Geon declared that he had unified the Three Han (Samhan), referring to the Three Kingdoms of Korea.[1][2] Samhan continued to be a common name for Korea during the Joseon period and was widely referenced in the Annals of the Joseon Dynasty.[1]" Sunnyediting99 (talk) 12:16, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
