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major copyright lawsuit
[edit]According to this blog sam phillips and the remix there was a successful law suit against Phillips following his answer song Bear Cat a response to Hound Dog (song) Does anyone know about this?--Salix (talk): 23:35, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
- See also Salem, James M. (2001). The late, great Johnny Ace and the transition from R & B to rock 'n' roll'. University of Illinois Press. ISBN 0252069692. --Salix (talk): 00:05, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
- I have the song, Bear Cat on a record, but noticed when more or less the same stuff appeared on CD the song was not included. Carptrash (talk) 20:20, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
the statement
[edit]included in the lede:
- "the emergence and development of rock and roll and rockabilly as the major form of popular music in the 1950s."
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makes it sound as if rockabilly was one the major forms of popular music in the 1950s. Which I disagree with. However before I slash & burn the lede i thought I'd see what your thoughts on the subject might be. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 20:24, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
“Sam Phillips Avenue”
[edit]“Sam Phillips Avenue” is an honorary designation, not the official name of the street. I replaced it with the address of the building, which is well known to fans. Jwicklatz (talk) 21:44, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]Just ran through famous quote, now it came from Ike Turner. Ike Turner said in an interview, that Dewey played their fresh recording (Rocket 88) and white kids began to buy it like crazy, that's when Sam got the idea: "Well, man, if I get me a white boy to sound like a black boy, then I got a gold mine"... (Holger Peterson "Talking Music: Blues Radio and Roots Music", p.156.). -Luboznaykin (talk) 19:12, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Milton Breland Stough
[edit]Didn't he play guitar at Sam Phillips studio? 24.237.159.220 (talk) 18:09, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 11 July 2026
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– I somewhat recently closed the RM at Talk:Sam Phillips (musician, born 1962) § Requested move 28 June 2026 in which it was suggested that Sam Phillips might not be the primary topic based on the page view statistics. For simplicity's sake and in order to avoid a possible WP:TRAINWRECK with the many disambiguators I decided to close that RM and encourage the opening of a new one here. However since that has not happened I feel like it would be unjust to the editors who !voted to demote Sam Phillips from ptopic, so I am opening this RM so that it can be discussed nevertheless. I just started with record producer as disambiguator, but that is not set in stone, so feel free to propose a different one. I am quite indifferent to the result. Best, Squawk7700 (talk) 11:59, 11 July 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. –Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 15:07, 18 July 2026 (UTC) — Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 18:23, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
Support, no primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 16:29, 11 July 2026 (UTC) Struck vote per below. Editors make a compelling WP:PT2 argument. 162 etc. (talk) 19:35, 19 July 2026 (UTC)- Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:13, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Support per nominator. No clear primary topic for this name. The safest bet is to have the disambiguation page be at the basename. Paintspot Infez (talk) 22:03, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Comment There's a typo in the nomination, which ptoposes to move the dab page to "Philips" with one L. PamD 08:03, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oh no, how did that happen - thank you so much for noticing. I've fixed it now, @162 etc., Ortizesp, Paintspot Infez, and WhiteTailedEagle: please indicate should you not approve of this fix. Squawk7700 (talk) 10:46, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
- re-ping @Paintspot because I just took your signature instead of your username, sorry Squawk7700 (talk) 10:48, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oh no, how did that happen - thank you so much for noticing. I've fixed it now, @162 etc., Ortizesp, Paintspot Infez, and WhiteTailedEagle: please indicate should you not approve of this fix. Squawk7700 (talk) 10:46, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
- Support No primary topic.🦅White-tailed eagleTalk to the eagleStalking eagle 09:30, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose, this Sam Philips is by far the holder of long-term cultural and historical significance, well deserving of primary. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:31, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed. BeatlesLover1963 (talk) 01:05, 19 July 2026 (UTC)
- Support the record producer has 55,576 views but the musician has 45,237. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:28, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
- Long-term significance hopefully has a place in this decision, and my concern is that people are commenting without knowing who Sam Phillips was and what impact he had on music. The biography Sam Phillips: The Man Who Invented Rock 'n' Roll sums it up well. Hopefully the closer won't just count heads but actually take long-term significance, along with the "lead" in daily views, into consideration. On Wikipedia once notable then always notable, and this should go for topic primary until disproven by equal and substantial notability of another primary contender. The singer may be notable, but not enough to move this Sam Phillips to disamb. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:30, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
- Support or else Sam Phillips (musician, born 1923). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:55, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- Comment. I don't get how this chap was a musician! Or why the other Sam Phillips was moved to Sam Phillips (musician, born 1962)? Nowhere does it say that this man was a musician. He was a producer. It even says in the article that "He was the first non-performer inducted" into the Rockabilly Hall of Fame. You need to perform music to be a musician. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:11, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
- Record producers are musicians too, see WP:SINGERDAB. 162 etc. (talk) 19:35, 19 July 2026 (UTC)
- That only applies if they are musicians as well (as Drake is in the given example). Not if they are only producers. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:11, 20 July 2026 (UTC)
- Record producers are musicians too, see WP:SINGERDAB. 162 etc. (talk) 19:35, 19 July 2026 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: Randy's complaint is valid here. Total page views are one thing but the page view stats show a solid advantage for the record producer in a WP:ONEOTHER situation where there is WP:PT2 to be considered. Empty !votes doesn't cut it for that, it warrants being discussed. –Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 15:07, 18 July 2026 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Alabama, WikiProject Biography, WikiProject Record Production, WikiProject Musicians, and WikiProject United States have been notified of this discussion. –Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 15:18, 18 July 2026 (UTC)
- Note that the "Agreed" keep comment above by BeatlesLover1963 was added after the relisting, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:18, 20 July 2026 (UTC)
- Editors posting above may have missed this relisting and its request for discussion, so will ping Necrothesp, LaundryPizza03, Crouch, Swale, WhiteTailedEagle, PamD, Paintspot, 162 etc., Squawk 7700. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:23, 27 July 2026 (UTC) and a re-ping because of a spacing mistake, Squawk7700, Randy Kryn (talk) 04:25, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- If we agree that born-1923 was not a musician, then it should be moved as initially proposed, and born-1962 should be moved back to Sam Phillips (musician). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:11, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
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