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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Johnjbarton in topic Symbolism of planetary atomic models

3D animation of an atom

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The 3D animation is vastly distorted for the purpose of this article. The nucleus is 20,000 to 60,000 times smaller than the electron cloud. See Atomic nucleus. Johnjbarton (talk) 17:52, 24 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Rewrite needed.

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The underlying concept of this article is "mythological". Rutherford did not propose a complete model of the atom.

  • "But realizing that his evidence did not clinch his case he thought of his atomic model of 1911 as a preliminary sketch, whose details would take some time to complete."
    • Heilbron, John L. (1968). "The Scattering of α and β Particles and Rutherford's Atom". Archive for History of Exact Sciences. 4 (4): 247–307. doi:10.1007/BF00411591. ISSN 0003-9519. JSTOR 41133273. pg 304

Johnjbarton (talk) 17:57, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Symbolism of planetary atomic models

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The section "Symbolism of planetary atomic models" is a problem: all of the images discussed in this section are "planetary" and some may be "planetary atomic models". None are the model Rutherford proposed. No sources claims these are "Rutherford atoms". Planetary atomic models pre-dated Rutherford (See Kragh ref) and no work of Rutherford every supported a planetary model AFAICT.

Do we need a separate article "planetary atomic models"? Johnjbarton (talk) 00:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)Reply